Hey guys, first of all, I am 100% convinced there's both smoke and fire with this whole thing. It's huge. BUT
There are a lot of videos and articles out there that are repeating "facts" that have been debunked. Even if you tell someone 10 incontrovertible facts, if 1 thing is debunked, that's the only thing they'll focus on. For instance
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a lot of people point to the "Arch of Hysteria" sculpture in Tony Podestas house and say "it's a tribute to Jeffery Dahmer..." Well, it's not. It's fucked up, but it's the artist's rendition of someone writhing violently in a psychotic fit. Source: https://www.gallery.ca/en/see/collections/artwork.php?mkey=100798
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The "Boum Boum Room" pic isn't from Comet. It's a club (a total get drunk and fuck each other club, mind you, but a club in DC nonetheless). Very easy to be discredited if you try to point to this and say, "why is this at a family friendly pizza joint?" It's not.
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The 14 and the fish on John PĒD-esta's hands. That photo is attached to a Wikileaks email where he says he's happy about the #14 item on a climate change agenda: protecting the oceans and sea life. Even if there's a double meaning, the fact that there's a simple explanation is enough to ruin your/our credibility if we go repeating that crap.
Point is We should STRONGLY police ourselves and have a sticky post for all debunked garbage, so we don't go ruining our own credibility. Otherwise we'll end up like 9-11 Truthers, fighting to be taken seriously for decades, and a whole lot of kids are going to become "pizza-related"
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Mageza ago
In regards to number 3,with the 14 and fish: I wouldn't necessarily discount the possibility that this references the occult. Especially considering all the other evidence, it makes it less likely that this is JUST about climate change. Although that is certainly a possibility, and we should be careful to note that alternative interpretations are possible. We shouldn't stake our whole case on any one piece of evidence. Let all the facts together present their case. Don't necessarily toss out a piece of evidence that might make people think though, like the 14/fish picture. But you're right it could hurt our credibility if we point to it like "LOOK 100% PROOF" and then it ends up being discredited.
pall_mall ago
The email that picture is attached to, the timing of the tweet the email was referencing etc makes it really seem that somehow connecting it to a temple of set cult is a massive stretch. The things I've seen it connected to or used as a jumping off point are even bigger stretches. I understand the reasoning behind the thought experiments and what if stuff but it's really gotta be done with the assumption that the vast majority of it is just that. if you start promoting shit like that or really believing it as anything else then it is crazy and it does look that way.
my first experience with this shit was an infographic with that picture tying it to a pervert army dude in the 80s and a random crop in the middle of a email that said 'army cook book'. i almost dismissed this shit altogether because of it, glad i gave it a chance and realized not all of it is like that