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standalone ago

The same deity the establishment worship at Bohieman Grove

That bit is incorrect. The deity worshiped at the Bohemian grove isn't Moloch but the roman goddess Minerva / greek goddess Athena. Moloch is not represented by an owl, but by a bull-headed man. Minerva/Athena on the other hand is famously represented by an owl and is the goddess of Wisdom. This is the same Minerva/Athena that you find in the Apotheosis of Washington painting in the capitol rotunda or on the Confederate States dollar bills. You even find the owl of Minerva / Athena on the layout of capitol hill. This is a pervasive symbol in US symbology and hardly something occult at all. It was spinned very hard by Alex Jones to try to make the ritual he observed into something occult to compensate for the lack of anything obviously outrageous in what he actually witnessed.

Not saying that current elite leading the US are not a bunch of satanist pedophiles worshippers of Moloch / Ball / Satan / Lucifer (you name it). They very much appear to be. But I don't see anything that remotely suggest that in what Alex Jones witnessed at Bohemian Grove.

rivercontrol ago

I addressed that in a comment thread above, check for links. Mulak is ancient Egyptian for Owl. Mulak transported people through death. The Cannite god came later as a different form. Athena and her owl was also later. I'm sure a lot of the Grovers believe they are worshiping Athena, but the ritual they preform and the owl statue is not in line with Athena/Minerva. Cremation of Care is the simulation of a human sacrifice. Athena doesn't ask for human sacrifices (pretend or otherwise).

standalone ago

I agree that there are a few things creepy in the ritual, like the scream when they set the effigy on fire and the fact there seems to be the shape of a child's skeleton in the stake on the program, so it's possible that the ritual is meant to be understood at two levels. But then, what would be the point of disguising an occult ritual into an innocent druidic musical tribute to some roman / greek goddess of wisdom if that means that most of the audience will take it to face value and miss entirely the hidden message?

Either way, at best the Moloch lead is a (far fetched) hypothesis, so intellectual honesty would require to claim that Bohemian Grove's ritual involves worshiping a deity that could be interpreted as being Moloch, and not directly claiming that they are worshipping Moloch when we don't really know that this is really the case.

rivercontrol ago

Fair enough. One thing to keep in mind is the origin of the owl of Minerva. That area of Greece was and still is known for a small species of tree owls. The owl of Minerva is small, hidden and benign. A secret keeper. The motivation for having multiple levels of interpretation is to lower psychological defenses. That is the modus operandi for the kind of people I would classify as Satanists or Setists. It's exactly the way the pedphile rings work for both the children and the molestors. They think they are getting into something harmless and slowly, but surely they find themselves already participating in something they never ever would have wanted to be involved with.