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kekgate ago

yeah thats him. notice the #rugby in pic comments. good work anon.

edit: Man on right may actually be Ian Pope

oresd ago

Excellent catch. While not perfect, this certainly seems conclusive.

It connects Alefantis to a known pedophile. #Rugby, how would he know that? Wow.

Excellent, excellent work. This is exactly what this forum needs instead of this satanic crap connecting Clinton to aliens.

This is a GREAT find.

roundhouse1776 ago

Except the Satanic stuff is just as real as the pedophilia stuff and they directly tie together. Who gets to decide that's it's important to expose one thing and not the other?

Warnos44 ago

I think oresd means that people are more likely to listen to pedo to pedo connections vs satanic or alien "conspiracies".

Free_Radical ago

Maybe but that's irrelevant. You go where the evidence leads. Focus-testing it for soccer mom demographic would be counter-productive.

RageGoddess ago

Why would that be counter productive? Ideas and products don't just "take off" and become popular without carefully constructing the messaging around them. People will more readily share content that is framed in ideas they're already familiar with (pedo and cp) as opposed to satanism/occult stuff. Soccer moms don't want that on their FB or IG feeds.

Free_Radical ago

Wrong approach. It's not a line of products that have to be sold and compromised for an extra shekel.

You present the truth, the way you see it, and make sure it's as informative and clear as possible - you don't remove pieces of that truth because they might be, theoretically, inconvenient. Some demographics will be curious about the occult leads.

RageGoddess ago

True, it's not a line of products. However, you're mistaken in the idea that strategically controlling and shaping the narrative of pizzagate will somehow compromise the truth. Far from it. If the narrative is not controlled by the researchers, then someone else will do it...that's for sure. We have limited resources. Let's focus them on the areas that will generate the most potential legal action. Satanism is not illegal. Occult magic is not actually real and is also not illegal. The abuse is real, the pictures are real, so researchers, imho, should focus there. That's all. Cheers.

Free_Radical ago

Ideas and products

carefully constructing the messaging

content that is framed

strategically controlling and shaping the narrative

Let's focus them

Let's not.

These kinds of movements only work as a thousand-headed, ever changing, hydra (think Anonymous or Gamergate). You can't co-opt a group without leadership. You can't lead it astray if they're already moving in all directions.

RageGoddess ago

"These movements only work as a thousand-headed, ever changing, hydra"

And the evidence for that claim is Anon and Gamergate? But Anon has official media channels to distribute their highly targeted, carefully constructed messaging. The only way Gamergate is similar in any way to this current pizzagate investigation is that it also had no leader or centralized mouthpiece.

You can't co-opt a group without leadership.

Bro, have you even read any of the info on JTRIG? There are a number of highly effective strategies to control the narrative, disrupt investigations, and derail discussion in disorganized online forums just like this one. Forum sliding is one of them.

Here's my final comment and I'll let you have the last word since I've already made my point several times. Satanism/occult is part of this, yes, BUT we have limited resources. We should focus our resources on the angles/leads that will produce the most actionable evidence. Satanism is not illegal. Occult is not illegal. Therefore, we should focus on the actual illegal activities like pedophilia and cp. Cheers and good luck.