I FOUND A REAL SMOKING GUN: 240,000,000 MONEY LAUNDERING CONNECTED TO PIZZA

“Then, late last month, documents emerged in London concerning Russia's largest tax fraud, an alleged $US230 million heist that led to the untimely deaths of four people and threatens to damage the Russian government.”

''Would you like to add stature and credibility to your company by appointing someone with both an English title and substantial qualifications to your board? Lord Stubbington is available,'' reads a letter circulated by Taylor's wife, Priscila Lustre Taylor.

“The global arms-smuggling network feeds on this frailty, just as it feeds on the cast-off planes and pilots of the former Soviet Union. Adding to the intrigue over the seized flight 4L-AWA in Bangkok was that the Ilyushin-76 transport plane once belonged to a number of notorious international weapons dealers, including Viktor Bout - the so-called ''merchant of death'' and inspiration for the 2005 Hollywood movie Lord of War. The plane's current owner was an entity with headquarters in the United Arab Emirates but operated by Air West Ltd, based in Georgia. Air West had leased the aircraft to a New Zealand firm called SP Trading through a series of bank accounts in Estonia and New York.”

O LAWD

mossofan subscribers ltd.

[http://archive.is/EF9Ol](http://archive.is/EF9Ol)

EDIT: GRAYSON MANAGEMENT CORP IS REGISTERED IN MOSCOW RUSSIA

EDIT 2: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1480522028208.jpg

MOSSAC FONSECCA IS A MAJOR DONOR TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION

EDIT 3: Bounce Ping Pong is related to Ace Bounce in chicago

Cheryl Mills and sandler worked at the law firm next door to bounce.

maybe this is the 65,000 hot dog white house party we were looking for?

IMPORTANT EDIT: 8ch posters and yourselves have asked how I connected Mayson to all of this. LABONTE

http://directors.findthecompany.co.uk/l/5624719/Ms-Elisana-Marie-Antoinette-Labonte http://archive.is/rViV5

I apologize for this fuck up. I was even sitting here staring at my computer screen this morning trying to remember how the fuck I linked it.... need more sleep and more organization

Also, I've been asked about the connection to Besta Pizza and Besta World. Right, at this moment I don't have irrefutable evidence linking this, but if you consider that Besta World links to this massive amounts of money, drug, child and arms laundering thru the Taylors, which just so happens to pop up the thumbnail for Bounce, which just so happens to be nearly identical to Comet Ping Pong (and Ace for that matter), and just so happens to be next to a law firm that Cheryl Mills used to work at with Sandler, that just so happens to have a place next door to it called Besta Pizza, that just so happens to be owned by a Qatari with pedo symbols in the logo, then I have a bridge to sell.

PS. Mayson's director is a russian registered in Moscow.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06338326/officers (http://archive.is/C1qMH)) Mikhail Konev

Google'd Mikhail Konev: Merrill Lynch, BoA LinkedIN. GREATER ATLANTA AREA. Atlanta is the child trafficking capital of America.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikhailkonev < Mayson Director born in 1978. I don't have a LinkedIn to see if this is the same guy.

"Mikhail began his professional career at the age of 17, in his hometown of Volgograd, Russia. There he worked with U.S, Canadian, Italian, German and French citizens as interpreter and travel coordinator. Mikhail studied at the Virginia Military Institute and the Georgia State University and received his bachelor's degree in Business and Economics. Prior to Merrill Lynch, Mikhail was a founder and managing partner of a company specializing in export sales. Mikhail joined Merrill Lynch in 2012; he possesses strong interpersonal and analytical skills and focuses on simplifying the financial lives of clients through the creation of customized investment strategies, financial analysis and personal guidance. Mikhail resides in Midtown, Atlanta and in his free time he enjoys exploring new food and drink venues, attending local festivals, cooking for friends and family and spending hot summer days on a lake." - (https://www.ml.com/mlwm/system/viewfapage.aspx?pageurl=varzigroup))

FILING INFORMATION OF FORMER DIRECTORS : https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06338326/filing-history

"14 Oct 2014 Appointment of Mr Mikhail Konev as a director on 10 August 2013 View PDF (2 pages) 14 Oct 2014 Termination of appointment of Elisana Marie-Antoinette Labonte as a director on 10 August 2013 View PDF (1 page)"

Before Labonte, the director was Cinthia Julia Alcindor

27 Aug 2013 Termination of appointment of Cinthia Julie Alcindor as a director on 9 August 2013

https://panamadb.org/officer/cinthia-julie-alcindor_24352 (http://archive.is/eOY2r))

Before Alcindor, the founder was Alfred Brewster.

10 Aug 2011 Termination of appointment of Alfred Brewster as a director (https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/22244)) < more panama leaks. most shell companies have a registered address in moscow russia

ALFRED Brewster is a Director of Artemis Group - A major shareholder is Billy Rautenbach, who is linked to GREEN investments in Zimbabwe. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee member' Bill Clinton and his involvement with Zimbabwe?! Rautenbach has direct dies to ROBERT MUGABE.

https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/29006 http://archive.is/fLYF9 < wiki

http://countervortex.org/static/proxy.html (http://archive.is/S6prZ))

" A few notable businessmen said to be calling the shots in Shaba are American Maurice Tempelsman, Zimbabwean Billy Rautenbach, South African Marc Rich, British John Bredenkamp, Swede Adolph Lundin and Jean Raymond Boulle.

Tenke Mining, owned by Swedish mining magnate Lundin is one of some 15 multinational mining companies partnered with GECAMINES in Shaba. Lundin is called a longtime associate of George HW Bush; African Confidential reported in 1997 that the ex-president telephoned Mobutu on Lundin's behalf after the dictator had threatened to terminate a mining contract.

Pardoned by outgoing President Clinton for tax-evasion charges, Marc Rich operates the Swiss-based Glencore company. "

https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/181/33626.html (http://archive.is/3k0O6))

"Katanga's militias and racketeering are connected to criminal networks of businessmen, including Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe, Billy Rautenbach, John Bredenkamp, and Marc Rich. U.S. diamond magnate Maurice Tempelsman has profited from Katanga concessions since the Kennedy era. Lawrence Devlin, the old CIA station chief of Lubumbashi under Eisenhower, maintained Tempelsman's criminal rackets with direct ties to Zaire's former President Mobutu, and was subsequently employed by Tempelsman (16). "

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standalone 8.4 years ago

I really don't see where there is a smoking gun at all. As it's name indicates, Sealight Incorporations Limited is an agent that offers incorporation services of shell companies with a local nominee as director. Obviously if you look for everything that is related to the agent company, the director of the agent company, the share holders of the agent company and other directorships of the placeholder nominees etc, you are going to find thousands of companies that are involved in all sorts of suspicious activities. Just look at the Offshore Leaks page of Sealight Incorporations Limited: Sealight is connected to 3896 entities! Following those secondary links make no sense. They are just random other clients of Sealight so at most you would be able to establish that two companies are client of the same offshore incorporation company. That's a pretty weak link.

AFAICT the link you make between Sealight and Develcan is completely phony. The only relation between Sealight and Develcan is that Sealight incorporated another client company that's called "Everygood International", and both Everygood and Develcan have the same director, an entity called "Standard Directors" that, if its name is any indication, seems like yet another service company specialized in providing placeholder nominees to serve as local directors.

I may be missing something, but if that's the case it's something you haven't developed at all in your thread. With the information you have given, all I can see you doing in the thread is making unjustified leaps between loosely related companies and googling the names you find on the way, and it seems like a lucky coincidence that this ended up leading you to another ping pong cafe.

If there is more to it than meets the eye, can you clarify your exact reasoning as of how you move from one step to the next and why we should think that Bounce Ping Pong and Besta World Group are related at all? And if they are, how does that connect us to Besta Pizza? And even if that connects us to Besta Pizza, what's the connection with Comet Ping Pong other than the fact they are on the same block and are both apparently involved in child trafficking?

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CandyPanda 8.4 years ago

No, you can find my research on Sealight above. I found one link on our own corp lookup that ran sixteen shell or bogus entities through it. However, none of those listed in the Panama Papers, But crazy enough, the address did to another company at the same damn address, and the agent for that was yet another shell company. You think this is easy? It's not easy. And why in the world would anyone create such a mess? Money laundering to say the least, and if that is going on, it can't lead to good things around it.

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standalone 8.4 years ago

Hundreds or even thousands of companies sharing the same registration address is extremely common. In the case of offshore companies, it's even the norm since company registration address defaults to the address of the corporate services company that did the incorporation, provides the nominee director and secretary, manages the AGM, forward the eventual mail and files all the paperwork.

The article you linked to higher up in the thread explains it very well

In her passport, Nesita Manceau lists her occupation as "housewife." But she does oh-so-much more. On paper at least, she's a corporate titan. And she's been tangled in an arms-running scandal involving North Korea and Iran. Manceau is what could be called a "zombie director" of shell companies. She's been on the boards of scores of them. Lawyers in Florida, Oregon and Nevada have clients who call on her services. The 55-year-old Filipina, who until recently was living in the South Pacific island nation of Vanuatu, exercises what is required of an offshore corporate director: She simply signs her name. Time and time again. Practically the sole function of an offshore corporate director is to cloak the identity of the real owner of a company or trust. The director serves as a legal shield, of sorts. The documents known as the Panama Papers teem with these zombie directors who sign corporate papers at the bidding of unidentified owners. Such directors can oversee, at least on paper, hundreds - and sometimes thousands - of corporations.

They are a crucial cog in the machinery of foreign law firms and registration agents who churn out phantom corporations, stock them with proxy directors, slap a soothing name on them, and register them on atolls or far-away nations. It is a volume business. True owners of the shell companies often want passive directors with no control over, or even knowledge of, actual operations. Secretaries, Burger King cooks and housewives will do. Corporate registration agents like Mossack Fonseca, the Panama law firm whose 11.5 million leaked documents comprise the Panama Papers archive, earn extra fees when they stock the boards of offshore entities with nominees who usually have no clue as to the identity of the true owners.

It's entirely pointless to try to connect offshore companies through their intermediaries. Offshore companies are designed to obfuscate the legal owner of the entity and shield her from all legal responsibilities. The only salient information is shareholders if its a private company: this information is available publicly in a central company registry in some jurisdictions like Singapore and Hong Kong. If it's a trust you are out of luck as beneficiaries are not public information. Now, Panama Papers are a leak and I'm sure a lot more confidential information is laying around waiting to be discovered, but you won't find that in the semantic graph.

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CandyPanda 8.4 years ago

It's not "perfectly common." Sorry dude, I don't know what you think you know, but you are generalizing things that you haven't studied. Even at a tower in NYC, it's easy to trace the owners to individuals in a legal business. I should know since I've worked in many. A run down office building in the middle of nowhere creating businesses that do everything from oil to herbs to beauty supplies with some really sketchy naming all linking directly back to an agent in Hong Kong would bring the law down in force if the law was respected. But the point is, the law isn't being respected when these companies are set up, and clearly the state of Delaware is complicit in all of this. Which to your point though, you got that perfectly - there is no transparency at the transaction level to the public as far as money movement, but that is what companies I worked for do - it's called anti-money laundering. And it would seem our government has broken the law here.

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standalone 8.4 years ago

It's not "perfectly common." Sorry dude, I don't know what you think you know, but you are generalizing things that you haven't studied.

Virtually every office space, virtual office and corporate service company offers registered address services hosted at their own business address, and it's a staple in offshore jurisdictions. You don't seem to have much experience of business. I can't force you to believe me, so feel free to keep trying to connect the dots using intermediaries, officers and registered addresses. You'll quickly notice that you are going round in circles. But don't take my word. Try it for yourself. You can't know it until you experience it.

But the point is, the law isn't being respected when these companies are set up

You don't seem to understand how offshore companies are working. It's precisely because "phantom" shell companies are legal in the jurisdiction where they are incorporated that they are being used and that many incorporation services companies have developed to help fast tracking the process of creating an offshore entity.

there is no transparency at the transaction level to the public as far as money movement, but that is what companies I worked for do - it's called anti-money laundering

Either way there is no transparency at transaction level to the public. It's not like SWIFT, SEPA, ACH & co transactions where public domain. Depending on the local regulation, it is legal or illegal to transact with offshore corporations of specific jurisdictions due to their being essentially anonymous, but that can be easily worked around by bouncing through more lenient financial hubs like Hong Kong, the Luxembourg or the United Arab Emirates. There are also plenty of reckless banks like HSBC and Goldman Sachs who will not ask too many questions.

Anyway, we are getting pretty offtopic here.

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CandyPanda 8.4 years ago

Again, I'm trained in AML, and this is clearly money laundering activity. I've linked hundreds of thousands of companies in my lifetime, and I know what to look for. I'm curious why you're so upset by all of this? Do you not care about money laundering to foreign interests?

You're right though that there's no reason to belabor this convo. Just go down and set up an eTrading account with EEETRADE GLOBAL MARKET LTD. https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_de/4696244

or show me where I can or show an advertisement for this company. Seriously. It's that simple. If I'm off base, and this ridiculously "like-sounding" name to an electronic trading entity is legit, I'll stop looking at all of it if you can. You won't be able to though because this is clearly a made up name operating at a nondescript location in Delaware that houses a few small companies, usually a couple of law offices. It's not even designed to house sixteen companies.

Look, not trying to be an ass if you're seriously concerned, but it sure looks like concern trolling atm.

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standalone 8.4 years ago

it's clearly money laundering activity

Have you seen any financial transactions emanating from Besta World Group? For all we know, it's entirely possible that the entity is dormant and not involved in any money flow, or not doing anything that transits through the US in which case the way they are using their shell company could be perfectly legal from a regulatory perspective. EIther way, we just don't have access to the transactions records, that's not the kind of thing you will find in the Panama Papers. So the question of whether Besta Pizza / Andrew Kline are doing money laundering is moot because we won't find it that way anyway. And no having an offshore entity is not in itself a crime, so finding a connection between Besta Pizza and Besta World Group won't even be actionable.

I'm curious why you're so upset by all of this

I'm not upset. I'm concerned that we are barking up the wrong tree and wasting time and resources on following random and very tenuous leads that aren't even relevant to what we are trying to investigate here. It's like if you were trying to find other guilty parties by looking at people on the street and finding the ones who wear the same clothes. Maybe you can find something with a lot of luck. But that's hardly a "smoking gun" like OP claims it to be. At best using intermediaries and officers, you'll get very tenuous and far fetched connections. Shareholders is a different story: that's a much sounder connection albeit much more difficult to make.

Do you not care about money laundering to foreign interests?

Separation of concerns. I don't think that an investigation around a child trafficking ring is the right place to start tracking possible compliance breaches. That's the job of the FSA, the SEC or the IRS and if you are concerned that they may not be doing their job for the same reason that NYPD, the FBI and the DOJ aren't doing their job either, you can start another sub dedicated to auditing fniancially the Whitehouse and their crony businesses (good luck getting the data).

Look, not trying to be an ass if you're seriously concerned, but it sure looks like concern trolling atm.

This thread has received 600+ upvotes and hundred of comments and is currently hogging the only sticky slot that we have in spite of the fact it hasn't led to anything relevant (I'm still waiting for an explanation of what is supposed to be relevant in the finding: why is Bounce Ping Pong of interest other than the fact it has Ping Pong tables?). Because of that, it's getting much more attention than it deserves, and detracting from more productive investigation efforts. Every hour that people will spend trying to connect entities that are designed to obfuscate relationships and making phony connections based on very loose legal relationships that they may not entirely comprehend is one hour that isn't spent finding better leads.

Again I'm not saying that there is nothing to find in the Offshore Leaks. Bringing this was a good idea and with a rational analysis that looks at the right criteria like share ownership or directors / registration address that aren't also involved in the incorporation of another few hundreds of entities, there is probably some cues that we can try to find. But walking at random on the graph using ultra common intermediaries as connection doesn't belong to the list of strategies that will work. Only people who really understand the nature of the connections they are following should spend time analyzing this dataset. And it should be clear that this dataset isn't exactly the gold mine that it seems to be when following random connections and googling random shady organizations.

You can call me a concern troll, but time isn't our ally. The longer this investigation takes to come up with hard evidence and the more false leads we create and boast about, the scarcer the public attention will be when we finally find a real smoking gun, and the lower our chance of building enough momentum to force the FBI to open an official investigation. Meanwhile, children are being abused.

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CandyPanda 8.4 years ago

You keep putting the cart in front of the horse, and you're spending a lot of energy doing so. There is already enough evidence for an investigation into all of this, and that has nothing to do with the actual fears of pedophilia. Let me help you focus. The concern is that our government is breaking the law. We have already proven that they are breaking the law. My examples in Delaware show they are breaking the law. This requires a full investigation into the agents that they certified that enable all of this to begin with.

Anti-Money Laundering is all about knowing your client. On the surface, there is already evidence that they do not know their client, yet they approve these agents to then approve these companies. Banks, offshore accounts, all of that is the cart, not the horse. If you want a company, you got to a state and you need an agent. You are supposed to be verified. The agent is supposed to be verified. All of our secondary services rely on the government doing this - banks cannot arrest people (I can explain the entire process if you need it explained).

There is also historical evidence that the owner of Besta Pizza was under scrutiny with the DC Bar who wanted to know why he was moving money through a Trust account in what seemed like a bribe. Powerful people came and plead his case. No one understood it at the time. He was cleared. He's still the listed owner. He represents all of the restaurant businesses in Washington DC. Again, we are not the police - we are surfacing more and more evidence to put pressure on law enforcement to do their jobs, period. I can show you another recent case where this same Besta Pizza agent of Uptown Pizza (is it even uptown?) created a scene this year when officials were pushing back on bar licensing in Washington DC. You continuously say "only people who understand it" which proves you're siding with authority which is obviously turning the other way.If that authority is corrupt, why in the hell would we turn it over to them to begin with? So yeah, you're trying to deter people from surfacing evidence, so have fun with that, you're not for the cause of justice clearly if you want corruption to continue unabated.

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standalone 8.4 years ago

There is already enough evidence for an investigation into all of this, and that has nothing to do with the actual fears of pedophilia.

This shows beyond doubt that you are in the wrong sub. What we want is specifically to take down the pedophile ring, which implies that the Whitehouse and crony businesses should be investigated on that specific charge. You won't even get the same type of agency investigating white colar crime and child trafficing.

Let me help you focus. The concern is that our government is breaking the law.

No that's not at all the concern. The elite is and has always considered itself above the the law and has always been breaking it routinely in a quasi systematic manner. That's nothing new. In case you are not aware, the Pentagon has managed to "lose" (read "embezzle") USD 6.5 trillions (not a misspelling) and this didn't even create much public outrage. Anyway, that's the second time in a couple of years that they lose trillions, and the government has the Fed print gazillions every year so who cares. Money is just toilet paper and everyone expects that politicians will be lining their pockets and squander the rest on useless wars that were not even approved by the congress. People couldn't be more jaded about public money matters nowadays. So if you think we are here working around the clock to catch a pizzeria and the Clinton Foundation red handed laundering 6-figure sums, you are seriously mistaken about the purpose of this whole enterprise.

Now my turn to help you focus: as we are speaking, there are children that are being routinely raped, psychologically and physically abused, sequestered in dark and cold basements, and eventually murdered when they are not sacrificed in a gruesome satanic ritual, and that is what everyone on this sub (except apparently you) is really concerned about. And that is what we are going to push the FBI to investigate and prosecute. And hopefully that will happen early enough to save as many lives as possible.

Now feeI free to investigate your stuff on your side as you see fit, but don't expect that the rest of the sub will be interested in getting the Whitehouse investigated on charges of money laundering.

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CandyPanda 8.4 years ago

Ah speaking for everyone now. That's nice. Good luck with your side then ;)

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