Ok so I was doing a little bit of research into the Franklin scandal, and came across a scan of a newspaper article from back in the day. I noticed the name Jay B Stephens as the US Attorney for DC. This guy was supposed to investigate the Washinton side of the Franklin scandal, and look into the fun fuckery of Craig Spence. There was apparently a lot of complaining about that though because apparently a lot of the people named in the Spence side of the scandals were buddy buddy with Stephens. I don't really know what happened as a result, because finding research on line from newspapers in 1989 is pretty damn hard. 'Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.' - George Orwell
Anyhow move forward a few years and J.Stephens becomes Senior VP of Raytheon. Raytheon manufactures electronics for weapon systems. Raytheon was lobbying HRC hard while she was Secretary of State so they could horn in on arms deals following the Arab spring.
How would a defense contractor who is friends of child molestors get sweet access to the White House? Fuckin hire some of those bad mamma jamma baby touchers of course!! Raytheon hired Heather Podesta (Tony's Wife/John sister-in-law) to work form them and lobby Clinton as Secretary of State
So there you go. Franklin Scandal --> Raytheon --> White House --> Podestas.
Hopefully some of you guys can take those leads further than I can.
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Spuddlebuns ago
This is an interesting connection, but by your own words, these pervs all travel in the same circles, and DC is, in the end, a somewhat small circle, with very wide reach. Please feel free to continue digging, but no. This has NOTHING SPECIFIC to #pizzagate beyond who knows who.
Until you can DIRECTLY tie Stephens into the EVENTS of #Pizzagate, it is nothing more than a tenuous connection of (yet another) pedophile to the Clinton Foundation because he knows a guy who knows a guy who's wife is a lobbyist -type of connection. NOT SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO #pizzagate...
dontkillmehillary ago
I respectfully disagree. We have a guy with serious conflicts of interest investigating a child pedofile ring, who 25+ years later is dealing directly with the Podestas and Clintons. His employment at Raytheon is irrelevant beyond the scope of power and money it brings him today. Because he was a public official in the 80's/90's FOIA requests can be made into the Grand Jury he was forming. This gives us access to additional people of interest. Its stupid to keep searching the internet for pizza restaurants with funny logos instead of following actual trails of real documentable evidence to see who and where they lead.
Spuddlebuns ago
I respect your respectful disagreement.
All respect aside, It is NOT SPECIFICALLY related to #pizzagate. You have NO DIRECT TIES of this specific individual to the #pizzagate situation. You ONLY have tangential ties of a guy who works for a company who has a lobbyist who...oh fuck it. SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO #pizzagate. PROVIDE SOMETHING TYING THIS GUY TO WHAT IS GOING ON.
If we start posting every government employee who has been caught for pedo-related activities, who knows someone tangentially related to #pizzagate, the message will simply be lost in the "I know a guy, who knows a guy, who once worked for Hillary, and he visits CP sites..." SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO #pizzagate. SPECIFIC. NOT vaguely kinda sorta maybe tied to something.... SPECIFICS or it DOESN'T COUNT!
If YOU think this so important, get SPECIFIC tie ins. Otherwise, post it in Conspiracies. It doesn't belong here.
VictorySoon ago
Yeah I agree with everyone. Obviously airtight proof is not the nature of what this, but as more of these 'strong connections' come up, the more clearly it eliminates the possibility that these could ALL be coincidences, so through probability it is strong evidence.
Spuddlebuns ago
STRONG connections is the point. Not tangential evidence. SPECIFICALLY relating to #pizzagate.
That is what many people seem to be having a problem with...
alneuman ago
Sheesh. Another one? How is this not related to pizzagate? Pedophilia related. Check. Involves high level politicians. Check. Person can be specifically connected to Podesta. Check. Why are you filling these threads with pointless speculation on if this is 'related' or not? It's freaking pedophilia and politicians. Stop posting ridiculous stuff that obfuscates any good info coming in...very suspicious...anyone with half a brain sees the connections...
Geez. I just read the rest of your 'response'. Please go 'help' another investigation, like the conspiracy subredit. They'll appreciate you more over there. The fed gov't pedophilia is ALL related! Anyone who has investigated this stuff knows this. Except you it seems. Don't bother responding because you're ignored. Just wise the f up.
Spuddlebuns ago
SHEESH, ANOTHER idiot trying to make extremely tenuous connections seem relevant to a SPECIFIC SITUATION? WOW. who'da thunk it?
EVERYTHING pedo-related is NOT specific to #pizzagate. And in DC, everyone is somehow connected to someone else. We are NOT playing "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon" here. I'm sure you can tie HIM into #pizzagate if you try...
SPECIFICALLY RELATED does NOT mean a guy who knows a guy who was once indicted - type associations.
YOU go help the conspiracy theorists. I'm sure you can find a menu from Comet Ping Pong to tie into the Franklin scandal. You can also "wise up," and get over your butthurt to learn what the word "SPECIFICALLY" means.
Until then, please feel free to visit /v/pizzagateunedited. They will accept ANYTHING that involves pedophilia, no matter HOW far-fetched and unrelated. Enjoy!
dontkillmehillary ago
I've found a link, and hopefully others with more researching skill than me can move it forward from where I am.
I don't really understand how you are not connectng the importance of a guy DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO A PEDOPHILE RING COVER UP and HEATHER PODESTA. I'm pretty sure you don't get much closer to Pizzagate than the wife of Tony Podesta.
If YOU aren't seeing it, fine leave it be. Personally I'm going to keep looking down these paths with actual evidence until I find something else of value to the community.