There are now 9 moderators on v/pizzagate, and that is way more than any other subverse has.
The content has gone from staggering and damning evidence and investigation to shitty topics that contribute nothing. ie:
"MURDERED TV presenter Jill Dando tried to expose a paedophile ring involving big-names"
"Massive sadist cannibal pedo community uncovered at tribe.net"
"Support Voat - Turn your ad blockers off "
"Try switching to "New" instead of "Hot" to catch new subverses that might be important "
"An Open Message to the brave people of Turkey who are covering Pizzagate! "
"Former Labour Health Secretary: We can't prove sex with children does them harm "
it goes on and on... none of this has to do with the actual investigation of pizza gate.. it's all useless noise. I noticed a very drastic change when all of the new mods started coming in, and now all the content is muddied down with no real focus on pizzagate. is anyone else seeing that? I honestly see maybe 1 thing that could be directly related to pizzagate on the front page. Like what the fuck?
kingkongwaswrong ago
Initially we were going to address all the reported comments but now we've decided not to.
I think we're going to change our moderating style tbh, the hands off approach is leading to so much trash and concern trolling and irrelevant stuff like you guys have raised. How else do we deal with that stuff aside from setting strict rules and deleting distracting stuff... I'm not sure.
kingkongwaswrong ago
nope. I had to get to 100 ccp to downvote anything, and I'm the owner. I assume it must be the same for any level of permissions.
Look I honestly don't think the mods are 'suppressing useful information and threads'. There are a LOT of shills here. They are definitely contributing to upvoating useless threads - even though they cant downvote much.
Le_Squish ago
You've been given every chance to prove you aren't a concern troll or shill. For most voaters this isn't our first rodeo. Collect your paycheck and move on, dear.
chickyrogue ago
maybe theres nine cuz its holiday and everyone wants and deserves some yeah so rotating schedules just sayin
we are not compromised back to work all
Le_Squish ago
Nothing is stopping you from posting things to fix that.
Never_Over ago
since you are new, every reddit exodus to here comes major reddit style posts.... let me think, by January it should even out
Le_Squish ago
When you come on voat and do this kind of concern trolling from an account that has contributed nothing of value submission or content wise we tend to think you are a shill. Voat gets attacked by shills rather often.
If you were truly concerned, you would bring up leads and connections that might be of interest that may have been overlooked in all the noise. Instead you choose to try and create distrust and doubt.
Fuck off, faggot.
waitingforamate ago
It's interesting how our minds work when looking into conspiracy theories. I have had the same thought as you but as you have used one of my shares, MURDERED TV presenter Jill Dando tried to expose a paedophile ring involving big-names I can assure you it was shared with the intention of uncovering not just a USA based paedophile ring but a WORLDWIDE ring possibly connected to pizzagate. We're connecting the dots, sometimes we get it right, sometimes we don't but that is actually the MSM reporting on that case rather than a random 'conspiracy.com' site that nobody has heard of. I try to bring facts to the table and work from there. I'm sorry you feel this way but we CANNOT go turning on each other within the community. We have to upvote when necessary and downvote the rest.
Stavon ago
They are moderating. There are likely many to act quickly and because some people need to sleep and work sometimes. Also it's only 3 with full mod privileges, no reason to freak out.
markrod420 ago
You are heavily over estimating the power of 9 downvoats...
Stavon ago
It's not only these mods which came. The quality usually sinks with the amount of users. There are shills and trolls, but I have no reason to believe it's the mods. Also check their mod levels, looks normal.
Balarama ago
Apologies no links provided in this quick reply. You raise valid concerns regarding diffusion of content and rise in moderators, Im compelled to reply.
I joined zzagate research militia as wiki sleuth in October '16 when eyes wide open threads first dropped. Remained on the case variously posting and digging, making progress. I've done wrk looking into shell llcs & conglomerate mapping & affiliate mapping within social netwrks to plot out sketch biz ops for soc science research in past. Wanted to keep on it so Balarama affiliates. Let us explain away much of this disorder and obfuscation from the influx of we intellectual migrants, joining & then unpacking our research efforts, some of us perhaps too quickly. Additionally, the high mod count can be a helpful and welcome part of this team, and allow our process to move expeditious like CaoCaos calvary, and the trait of speed is essential when we are literally pursuing turbo criminals & unveiling their heinous infrastructure. So let us be grateful for the added help, if indeed the mods loyalty to the causus belli remains pure. This research movement been a powerfully crowd sourced mass amateurization , almost a social movement; and this momentum will maintain, so long as we maintain our scruples and leave the spinoff shit to a dull roar, lest we contaminate this board to the point of no return, or it becomes so effective against their evil that hireling infiltrators will destroy this cmmnity; which seems the eventual fate of effective subversive/militant research machines that pose threat to organized crime/ power-elite.
WHERE WE ARE 11/26/16 [VOAT]
Most of u-- familiars w reddit or chans investigations--comprehend the aforementioned diffusion patterns of intel into this here voat.co mssgboard/honeypot--<aside> bc anytime a spinoff rsearch forum popsup devoted to kaiboshing a global human+ trafficking network, with tens of thousands of (amateur) researchers passionately on the trail of beltway syndicate -- there will b infiltrators in wolves clothing and they will place honeypots & various boobytraps,, yes we have joined this braintrust and aware. As researchers we expose ourselves to these perils by joining membership(sign in to comment) thought boards. Personally, i prefer my anons which is why ive stayed more EWO chan than redd, but i digress.
Let me describe what im seeing even tho most of u can spot it.
Yes content is being watered dwn, adulerated, and variously spun off.
Yes this is a tactic of infiltraitor sabateurs b they commentators/posters/moderators. Yes an adulterated board can be the consequence of poor quality moderation( like a bad editor), or strategic moderation working to obfuscate/supress information, stymie leads, red herring; muddy the veritable waters/poison our collective well.(which inevitably happens to these fragile boards, again why the 4chan anon system remains robust in spite constant attax & infiltration). All mods/members wrking against the spirit of pizzagate and sabotaging our progress--you hired misanthropes:: surrogate of our adversaries:: the shill (are you merely a hireling or do we face an intimate of the syndicate? leave a ;) here & there, leave us passwrds/clues, or aid & abet them & b kys
WE BEGIN TO SEE YOU & GROW FAMILIAR WITH YOUR BATTLE ARRAY SHILL MSSNGR/MODERATOR:
-- you've noticed it with shit OPs & thread-shills your entire online life, (especially CTR during great maga meme wars) an agent of 'controlled opposition' shitposting or infiltrating, working discursively to: * 5D discredit discourage distract disinfo denode * formulate consent building directionality in thread discourse * red herring we into a containment fields * more basic tactic is h8 posting, but there are bots for that now.
To conclude- Pizzagate braintrusts mission/modus operendi at its heart remains an organic response: TOPPLE CRIMINAL SYNDICATES/ PROTECT THE KIDS/ CUT OUR TEETH IN MAJOR OPEN SOURCE RESEARCH OP. LORDS WORK.
Sonic ago
Have you tried investigating these people that are implicated in pedophilia? That stuff may not be directly related, but I'm betting you never bother to check it out and see what it was. You're supposed to be investigating a giant coverup of a pedophile ring, and you're NOT investigating every nook and cranny? Are you a retard or just a shill?
NotConspiracyIfReal ago
I completely agree with you! Some of the topic morojax mentioned that weren't important sounds important to me! I put this out an hour or so and got down voted into the negative! https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1438110
It seems very important to me with what FBIAnon said! Because I'm new to voat I can't even vote on anything because I don't have enough points! Very frustrating!
Agrosniper ago
Meta shitposting
kingkongwaswrong ago
no, we only get 1 upvote/downvote per post like you. Unless you think we all have heaps of alts?
Remember there are going to be a lot of shills here. The only thing we can do to combat that is good content, good morale, and upvoting the good and downvoting the bad.
madhatter67 ago
It's a tricky balance....
It's important to keep moving forward the current investigation and keeping the best evidence and leads easily accessible
Certainly we don't want to drown the signal in wild unconnected speculation....but this stuff has happened time and time again in various places...with a lot of similarities....a broader picture can be useful in understanding what is going on and how deep it runs....and focusing on old cases may well open up new clear connections
Stavon ago
No. They can do nothing about that except delete posts and block users. And both is logged.
Stavon ago
But that has little to do with the mods. It's those who post and upvoat that stuff.
kingkongwaswrong ago
Hi guys, sub owner here.
I knew I couldnt mod this place on my own, so I found some of the reddit mods that looked like they had good intent.
I've been chatting to them on riot/matrix, and watching how they handle the sub. I'm pretty convinced that they're legit.
We can't control the quality of content on the front page - the voat community has been very vocal on their position regarding censorship. We are trying to delete things that are obvious spam, but can't just go deleting things based on 'opinion'.
I've put up a sticky that gives some direction, but it's up to users what they actually investigate, post and upvoat.
I'm not sure if there's much more we can do. If you think we should be doing something, or moderating more harshly, please let me know.
THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES ago
DON'T GIVE THEM FULL PERMISSIONS NO MATTER WHAT
kingkongwaswrong ago
don't be so melodramatic.. the admins can always reverse anything if the outrage from the community is great enough. Also if I gave them full permissions and they removed me, that would speak volumes in itself and I would definitely let you guys know if I intended to leave as opposed to being ousted.
Try to spend your energy researching, and posting both here and 8ch
THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES ago
If you give full permissions to another mod, that may tip the boat and let NSA worker hack the site. They will then lock you out and take over all mod accounts. They wouldn't remove you, they don't operate within the confines of this site. They would assume your identity. But it's for naught. They are now fighting the people. We will personally execute them in a decade's time.
goatboy ago
OP, your account is 3 days old. Lurk moar. Noise can't stop the signal. Noise helps distract the fools.
nimblenav ago
Your thread is dumber and more stupid than all the other threads you have listed.
safetythrowaway1234 ago
Like this post? Both of your submissions have nothing to do with the investigation. Check out the mod logs if you are worried and let us know if you find anything. Do your own research and post what you find instead of ringing the alarm bells. Do what's in your control: upvoat/comment on research and leads you think are important and move forward. Once you hit 100 CCP, downvote what you think is off topic. If everyone does this, the noise will inevitably fall through.
LostandFound ago
"Support Voat - Turn your ad blockers off " - thats me - pizza eddit refugee here - yeah I guess it takes away from the main focus I am just want to get voat the support it needs. - Feedback here please will remove if voted spammy.
Edit: Also the real investigation was never taking place on eddit or voat - were just content aggregating for those who are full opsec looking into this - which is kind of the point of these sites no?
DontVanMeBro ago
its not an impossibility. You could make another pizzagate subverse to see the difference in moderation. if reddit can edit comments with no trace it may be possible to do the same with posts here. twitter user @sye_phan whos twitter account was seized bynsa looked on the site for about 45mins and found vulnerabilities which is most likely why he did not post his information here according to his post. anyways, stay safe.
Stavon ago
That's no problem for a high volume sub. If there is mod abuse, report it and the bad mods will likely be removed. That's what the mod logs are for.
Like this post for example? Claiming claiming the sub is compromised to make users suspect each others instead of investigating.
Magdalena ago
Threads started to lose quality when we moved from Reddit to Voat actually. When Pizzagate gained attraction, shills began to shill.
smokratez ago
I ran a tight ship on voat until you let the reddit homos come in.
theoldguy ago
The only thing you run is your mouth.
smokratez ago
Are you that guy that kept talking about my dick the other day?
theoldguy ago
No, no, you are a dick.
smokratez ago
See. You can't stop talking about penis.
theoldguy ago
So you're saying "Nyah nyah nyah I can't hear you"?
smokratez ago
I am making fun of you talking about my penis every time you talk to me. Are you deaf?
theoldguy ago
Why? I've already heard you're queer.
smokratez ago
It doesn't count if you told yourself that, because you hope it's true.
theoldguy ago
I can't find the post where you said you were gay as a teenager, but I found the one that proves you're a nigger
smokratez ago
You truly are obsessed with me aren't you. How does this not make your feel embarrassed?
theoldguy ago
Embarrassed? Pot calling the kettle black.
smokratez ago
You are in love with me. How is that not embarrassing for you?
theoldguy ago
I'd love to give you a spanking.
smokratez ago
Of course. We have already established that you are gay for me and in love with me.
theoldguy ago
And your insane delusions just keep trolling along.
smokratez ago
You are the one who keeps talking about my dick.
theoldguy ago
Why would I talk about microscopic objects that have never been used?
smokratez ago
You have been talking about yourself for months now.