A very cold and professional introduction, a website with other models, male and female, doing all sorts of nonsexualized work. An offer for payment, "But you have to come to X." then offer to simply deduct the ticket from the final payment, a sort of advance. Surprise her with the room... Maybe explain it away as a corporate suite they the company maintains and it happens to be vacant.
If you can't imagine how someone else gets scammed, you're probably easy to scam.
How simple is it when guys were travelling to Sweden to do sham weddings (the weddings were real, but they were using stolen identities and names and were not citizens) and then the girls thinking the man had a job travelling or doing IT or something had no idea their whole house, every hotel they lived in, etc. was a cam feed.
It doesn't matter how 'good she has it' because she was lured and lied to. Her consent was implied but not real.
Women don't lead, they are led. By men and by their own emotions. Dominance and power is all they will ever respond to because it is innate within the very core of their being.
Some powerful person man or woman comes up to me says "I'll give you $5,000 a flight and hotel to clean my fridge" I get that in writing. I also make sure everyone knows where I am going and what I am doing in case I don't come back. What I don't do is simply show up, find out I'm supposed to build a house, build the house, and then complain about it later.
The fact that this apparently worked 5,000 times makes everything I just said irrefutable.
Sooo she thought 5000 bucks, a plane ride, a 5 star hotel... only for a photo shoot?
Good looking models do make this much. A shoot can last a week or two though.
Then she actually did the porn shoot?
Women far more predisposed to being coerced or forced into sex than men. I can't tell you how many women I know who were on a date and ended up putting out simply because "he was really pushy"
There have been times when someone I've been with, has pressured for sex, and I rightfully told them to fuck off.
Sex is a gift with someone that you truly love, and ideally with 1 person for life, and after some time of being with someone. Not something you give to every Tom, Dick and Harry.
Doubtful.....she knew exactly what she was getting into, probably had second thoughts on the plane ride of which there was likely lots of booze, drugs and sex, then decided to play her victim card when it came time to do it all over again in front of the camera.
Sadly the - invited to model but it's actually porn - thing seems to be pretty real. Women can make a living modeling without being whores. Getting there is harrowing though and you will undoubtedly run into guys trying to bang you or just straight up liars like these guys. Young girls have no clue. It's like American Idol - how many talentless morons show up just for even a glimmer of a shot at making it big? These girls think a career has fallen in their lap. No parental guidance to tell them otherwise.
OK then enjpoy yourself when the FBI or Secret Service comes to arrest your ass.
If she doesn't consent afterward or seem to know shes a porn star its digital human trafficking. Its not funny when you make fun of her broke ass because she can't find a job.
These guys are slime and from what I've read they probably did commit some crimes and definitely both defrauded and breached their contracts with many of these women. But I also think these women are all incentivized to lie about their own culpability and stupidity. They want to save as much face as possible, try to reconstruct their reputations and also improve any legal cases against these guys.
yeah, that is a hard one to deal with. I take the social hit at work and always remind niggerballwatchers that they wear another mans name on their backs.
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petevoat ago
Sooo she thought 5000 bucks, a plane ride, a 5 star hotel... only for a photo shoot?
Is she dumb?
Then she actually did the porn shoot?
danimalplanimal ago
too dumb to call the police when being extorted apparently...
WickedVocalist ago
Every guy and chick on here blaming the girl is a different shade of predator.
petevoat ago
Wtf, there's a reason for being a parent and that's to be a parent and teach these things
LordSporkington ago
It happens gradually.
A very cold and professional introduction, a website with other models, male and female, doing all sorts of nonsexualized work. An offer for payment, "But you have to come to X." then offer to simply deduct the ticket from the final payment, a sort of advance. Surprise her with the room... Maybe explain it away as a corporate suite they the company maintains and it happens to be vacant.
If you can't imagine how someone else gets scammed, you're probably easy to scam.
Gigglestick ago
She did like 3 more after that one...
WickedVocalist ago
How simple is it when guys were travelling to Sweden to do sham weddings (the weddings were real, but they were using stolen identities and names and were not citizens) and then the girls thinking the man had a job travelling or doing IT or something had no idea their whole house, every hotel they lived in, etc. was a cam feed.
It doesn't matter how 'good she has it' because she was lured and lied to. Her consent was implied but not real.
metricisokay ago
Women don't lead, they are led. By men and by their own emotions. Dominance and power is all they will ever respond to because it is innate within the very core of their being.
Some powerful person man or woman comes up to me says "I'll give you $5,000 a flight and hotel to clean my fridge" I get that in writing. I also make sure everyone knows where I am going and what I am doing in case I don't come back. What I don't do is simply show up, find out I'm supposed to build a house, build the house, and then complain about it later.
The fact that this apparently worked 5,000 times makes everything I just said irrefutable.
WickedVocalist ago
So you and about 100 other guys with ties to ALT right, MGTOW, polyamory, and the LDS church all blame the girl.
Can't wait to find out what you're hiding.
metricisokay ago
The story in the OP if it's true could be a case study in reasoned thinking and taking accountability for your actions.
ForgottenMemes ago
Good looking models do make this much. A shoot can last a week or two though.
Women far more predisposed to being coerced or forced into sex than men. I can't tell you how many women I know who were on a date and ended up putting out simply because "he was really pushy"
WickedVocalist ago
"He was very pushy" = date rape.
Do you know how easy it is to drug these girls and con them into traps like that?
speedisavirus ago
Bullshit. They put out because they are whores. If they weren't and didn't want it they wouldn't put out.
Intrixina ago
Precisely.
There have been times when someone I've been with, has pressured for sex, and I rightfully told them to fuck off.
Sex is a gift with someone that you truly love, and ideally with 1 person for life, and after some time of being with someone. Not something you give to every Tom, Dick and Harry.
Planetoftheclown ago
Doubtful.....she knew exactly what she was getting into, probably had second thoughts on the plane ride of which there was likely lots of booze, drugs and sex, then decided to play her victim card when it came time to do it all over again in front of the camera.
ForgotMyName ago
Sadly the - invited to model but it's actually porn - thing seems to be pretty real. Women can make a living modeling without being whores. Getting there is harrowing though and you will undoubtedly run into guys trying to bang you or just straight up liars like these guys. Young girls have no clue. It's like American Idol - how many talentless morons show up just for even a glimmer of a shot at making it big? These girls think a career has fallen in their lap. No parental guidance to tell them otherwise.
WickedVocalist ago
OK then enjpoy yourself when the FBI or Secret Service comes to arrest your ass.
If she doesn't consent afterward or seem to know shes a porn star its digital human trafficking. Its not funny when you make fun of her broke ass because she can't find a job.
ForgotMyName ago
I think you replied to the wrong person.
britt121 ago
I know a guy who was groomed into gay porn. Good looking 18 year old- starts off with shirtless pics and a fat paycheck.
Then a callback for another shoot with a few other shirtless dudes- fat paycheck.
Then the next shoot, the guys have to kiss- fatter paycheck.
Then a lot of shoots where a guy does something sexual to him- fatter paycheck and all done under a pseudonym.
Eventually he's sucking dick and getting paid a lot but it took a slippery slope of gay stuff to get him to that point.
The_black_stallion ago
Its not hard to say no
britt121 ago
I agree, its just insidious how they push people into it.
WickedVocalist ago
Sorry but there are troves of willing women sending in their model shots to hustler or playboy who love opportunities like that.
These men get off on doing it to girls who do not consent.
britt121 ago
For sure. I was simply referring to a guy I know who went down the slippery slope of modeling to gay porn.
ForgotMyName ago
It is. They normalize it. They slowly condition you to believe that it's normal. That's why grooming gangs exist in England.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
She knew what she was getting into. She just didn't know her friends and family would find out.
narcissist ago
Well she could sue for that. They did break that part of the deal.. i guess she needed it writing though.
WickedVocalist ago
Why should that be a civil matter? GFY
TopTierCIAShill ago
Verbal contracts are legally binding.
narcissist ago
They are... but proving what was said is the difficulty.
jxfaith ago
I'd be surprised if this entire exchange was set up and executed without there being a single text message between them with the details.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
These guys are slime and from what I've read they probably did commit some crimes and definitely both defrauded and breached their contracts with many of these women. But I also think these women are all incentivized to lie about their own culpability and stupidity. They want to save as much face as possible, try to reconstruct their reputations and also improve any legal cases against these guys.
DryerBox ago
Is she dumb?
She's a woman. She should have been stopped by a man.
Gigglestick ago
Jews aren’t men.
CowWithBeef ago
Her man. Back home. Who should protect her.
Adam_Jensen_ ago
He's busy watching niggerball.
Trousersnake1488 ago
yeah, that is a hard one to deal with. I take the social hit at work and always remind niggerballwatchers that they wear another mans name on their backs.
baphometsrage ago
He meant a father
Gigglestick ago
too much legal trouble. I miss when you could just kick some dudes ass and that was the end of it.
DryerBox ago
Father, brother, uncle, husband... someone
Father seems optimal, though.