Tie a pair of old steel-toed work boots together - rotor blades won't like it so much. Governments firing on their own citizens with air support is not crowd control - it is a cowardly act of war and invalidates their authority over you. Help Macron remember the fate of French "ruling class elites" who ignore the will of her God-loving patriots!
You're not seriously equating MOVE with peaceful protest are you? It matters greatly that EU air assets were deployed against French citizens, regardless of what they're shooting. MOVE was an outlaw militant group that used innocents for fire protection, like clown fronts are wont to do. Apples and oranges equation shows you're just try to stir things up, not argue in good faith - nice try though clown (that goes for your alts as well). Your deceits are obvious and have no footing here. Shoo fly.
They are not EU air assets, they are French assets. EU has no say in how the French should or shouldn't use them. And you still fail to say why a CS deployed from aircraft is any worse than normal police issue riot CS spray or CS grenade fired from a grenade launcher.
And heh, 20 day old account accusing me for having alts.
Oh, and I actually watched the video this time, pretty potato quality, but the grenades didn't seem to come from the helicopter, more likely thrown from the roof of the building. Trajectory is all wrong for them to come from that helicopter.
No one can throw up that high, and it wouldn't be that effective.
Laser pointers. Everyone can carry them, they are concealed easily, don't equate lethal force, and can be used to incapacitate / temporarily blind riot police as well.
Honestly, any fragmented parts shot at a helicopter has next to no chance of severely damaging it. Those things have back up systems for their back up systems. The best hope you have is to take out the rotors, which rope/chain/cable can do.
If you want non-lethal, high powered green lasers aimed at the faces is probably the best bet. This has a downside of showing them exactly where to aim their tear gas. Best case scenario is you blind them for a few seconds and/or force them to retreat. Chance of a crash is next to zero, although anything above zero is considered a hazard in aviation.
If you want less than lethal, then potatoes, golf balls, ball bearings, etc is the way to go. At minimum, anything that contacts would likely put a small dent in it, as well as make a nice thump to freak the pilots out, forcing their retreat. Causing a crash is slim but possible, although non-lethal damage may still occur.
If you're really intent on lethal anti-chopper rounds, makeshift chain shot is probably the best way to go. Any contact with the rotors will cause a crash, and almost guarantee death. This will force immediate retreat to a very safe distance. Direct and specific attempts of apprehension by military/police will happen, as it will be considered attempted murder.
"Direct and specific attempts of apprehension by military/police will happen, as it will be considered attempted murder."
So is launching a 12-16oz projectile from 500' or more above a crowd. If those canisters had hit anyone in the head, it would have killed them easily. So when people are trying to kill you, all bets are off.
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AGoatisNoOne ago
Tie a pair of old steel-toed work boots together - rotor blades won't like it so much. Governments firing on their own citizens with air support is not crowd control - it is a cowardly act of war and invalidates their authority over you. Help Macron remember the fate of French "ruling class elites" who ignore the will of her God-loving patriots!
L3D ago
Why does it matter where the cs is deployed from, and it is not like they would be actually bombing the civilians, like US has done for example https://mashable.com/2016/01/10/1985-move-bombing/
AGoatisNoOne ago
You're not seriously equating MOVE with peaceful protest are you? It matters greatly that EU air assets were deployed against French citizens, regardless of what they're shooting. MOVE was an outlaw militant group that used innocents for fire protection, like clown fronts are wont to do. Apples and oranges equation shows you're just try to stir things up, not argue in good faith - nice try though clown (that goes for your alts as well). Your deceits are obvious and have no footing here. Shoo fly.
L3D ago
They are not EU air assets, they are French assets. EU has no say in how the French should or shouldn't use them. And you still fail to say why a CS deployed from aircraft is any worse than normal police issue riot CS spray or CS grenade fired from a grenade launcher.
And heh, 20 day old account accusing me for having alts.
Oh, and I actually watched the video this time, pretty potato quality, but the grenades didn't seem to come from the helicopter, more likely thrown from the roof of the building. Trajectory is all wrong for them to come from that helicopter.
CameraCode ago
No one can throw up that high, and it wouldn't be that effective. Laser pointers. Everyone can carry them, they are concealed easily, don't equate lethal force, and can be used to incapacitate / temporarily blind riot police as well.
shawnfromnh69 ago
Then you need to have one of these. https://c8.alamy.com/comp/KMM6EA/medieval-catapult-at-battlement-close-to-red-tower-landmark-of-alanya-KMM6EA.jpg and just load it with a metal reinforced netting or some wire fencing and it you even get close the blades will snag up and oopsy the helicopter go boom and it plunges into the ground below.
Plavonica ago
Hell, even a $40 drone might work.
AGoatisNoOne ago
That should work!
SIayfire122 ago
Potato cannon with rope connecting two of them.
Nietzsche__ ago
Someone said those could shoot batteries or ball bearings. I had no idea they could do that and be built from plumbing parts.
SIayfire122 ago
Honestly, any fragmented parts shot at a helicopter has next to no chance of severely damaging it. Those things have back up systems for their back up systems. The best hope you have is to take out the rotors, which rope/chain/cable can do.
If you want non-lethal, high powered green lasers aimed at the faces is probably the best bet. This has a downside of showing them exactly where to aim their tear gas. Best case scenario is you blind them for a few seconds and/or force them to retreat. Chance of a crash is next to zero, although anything above zero is considered a hazard in aviation.
If you want less than lethal, then potatoes, golf balls, ball bearings, etc is the way to go. At minimum, anything that contacts would likely put a small dent in it, as well as make a nice thump to freak the pilots out, forcing their retreat. Causing a crash is slim but possible, although non-lethal damage may still occur.
If you're really intent on lethal anti-chopper rounds, makeshift chain shot is probably the best way to go. Any contact with the rotors will cause a crash, and almost guarantee death. This will force immediate retreat to a very safe distance. Direct and specific attempts of apprehension by military/police will happen, as it will be considered attempted murder.
uvulectomy ago
So is launching a 12-16oz projectile from 500' or more above a crowd. If those canisters had hit anyone in the head, it would have killed them easily. So when people are trying to kill you, all bets are off.
AGoatisNoOne ago
Lots of good ideas to offset their use of non-lethal force! But if they loose the AK's, all bets are off. Worldwide.
Nietzsche__ ago
This is very close to the answer.