There was a response to that on the ProtonMail subreddit. They explained it and clarified. Idk what's true but I do know ProtonMail is still better than yahoo, Gmail, or outlook/Hotmail. Tutanota besides having a difficult name to spell out over the phone when ordering stuff, is located in Germany. Germany is probably the country I trust the least in Europe right now.
There was a response to that on the ProtonMail subreddit. They explained it and clarified.
They've already attempted to explain it, which led to more digging, and is what lead to researchers eventually finding they they share a fucking CEO. There are only two possible options here:
Their story is consistent, in which case the above link is a better source (the source from their original confrontation), or
They changed their story, which renders anything they say that contradicts their first story invalid.
Reminder that their first story was already proven invalid: they first stated that they were entirely separate entities, then it was slowly proven over time that they share offices/infrastructure and Tesonet even signs their crypto certs (so no, your data isn't protected from them via encryption).
Idk what's true but I do know ProtonMail is still better than yahoo, Gmail, [...]
This is attempting the lesser of two evils fallacy. Worse, it isn't lesser at all - merely different heads of the same Hydra.
Tutanota [...] is located in Germany. Germany is probably the country I trust the least in Europe right now.
It is a logical impossibility to prove any option safe unless you have direct control or oversight over it. The only option that can be known to be safe is to roll your own and deal with the accompanying 'problems' ("problems" in quotes as the difficulties seem to be designed to discourage independent email hosting from ever becoming a thing).
The only way you can talk yourself into using one webmail over another is through lesser of two evils.
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kalgon ago
https://protonmail.com/about
Try the free version, it's limited in scope but then if you need a pro use there are affordable pro offers
Interface is rather nice, but there's no auto login feature/"remember me", because that's a security flaw to them
skywalker7777 ago
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2683626
h o n e y p o t
boggle247 ago
There was a response to that on the ProtonMail subreddit. They explained it and clarified. Idk what's true but I do know ProtonMail is still better than yahoo, Gmail, or outlook/Hotmail. Tutanota besides having a difficult name to spell out over the phone when ordering stuff, is located in Germany. Germany is probably the country I trust the least in Europe right now.
What email service do you use?
alele-opathic ago
So much is wrong with this post.
They've already attempted to explain it, which led to more digging, and is what lead to researchers eventually finding they they share a fucking CEO. There are only two possible options here:
Reminder that their first story was already proven invalid: they first stated that they were entirely separate entities, then it was slowly proven over time that they share offices/infrastructure and Tesonet even signs their crypto certs (so no, your data isn't protected from them via encryption).
This is attempting the lesser of two evils fallacy. Worse, it isn't lesser at all - merely different heads of the same Hydra.
It is a logical impossibility to prove any option safe unless you have direct control or oversight over it. The only option that can be known to be safe is to roll your own and deal with the accompanying 'problems' ("problems" in quotes as the difficulties seem to be designed to discourage independent email hosting from ever becoming a thing).
The only way you can talk yourself into using one webmail over another is through lesser of two evils.
boggle247 ago
Okay. Say it's all true. What provider do YOU use then?