This shit isn't new...People claim to be concerned about child abuse but the truth is: outta sight, outta mind. If I had my way, we would have a training curriculum and a licensing procedure for competent parenting...this would go a long way toward eliminating this garbage from our society, plus it would reduce the population by denying unqualified people procreation liberties.
I may of misunderstoof how far this went. I assumed from the video she was dressing up as a witch and scaring the kids. I had no clue about the burning, whipping, starving. This is worse than I thought with the scaring and backhanding.
Every few years we get this story of a mother or a grandmother that abuses their children. How do you protect children from their own, supposed, guardians?
I am cynical when it comes to the belief that society will ever be able to do enough to protect children from the people that are supposed to care for the children under their aegis.
How do you protect children from their own, supposed, guardians?
Easy. You have an actual Child Protective Services. No matter what, a kid being born into abusive parents is going to take a large toll on a kid... However, it could be easily overcome with proper Child Services. I mean "easily" compared to the current practice of "rehabilitating children." Which is obviously non existent.
The real question is how do you Make child protective services, A legit Service.... Ok, well they're both real questions.
MOAR CPS!! Its not like the one we have now is being used to incorrectly remove children from their families home because they moved away from the city to live off the land in a cabin and just homeschool the kids!
There is a lot we are not hearing about this case, and it's either to protect the child or an ongoing investigation involving the future arrest of others in the area.
Either way, you don't get 3 life sentences for being 'creative' with beating your kid. She was up to something much much worse.
Seeing part where person pretends to be which to stop children from being bad my first thought was, okay not cool but any jail time is overkill.
Then at the end she back hands them and video cuts out..... Yeah, fuck this bitch. You you got what you deserved. You aren't trying to be creative with discipline, you're trying to make no one believe your kids when they talk about being beaten.
As soon as the kid started screaming she was way over the line. That kid was terrified, and so was the boy on the couch. "Creative discipline" is insane and immature.
I agree, but a jail sentence is overkill for just that. By that logic every holloween prank that scares a kid should be worth jail time too... Insane and immature are not jailable offenses.
But she physically abused them. She scared them and slapped them around. That is where it becomes more that being insane and immature.
No. That's not "by that logic". It's not overkill. Halloween pranks are followed by taking off the mask and saying "It's ok, Look, It's just a mask. We're just pretending. Nothing to be scared of." Usually the scared kid will also have a guardian there who will give them a sense of protection. If someone doesn't stop "the prank" after the child is visibly traumatized, that's not
"just a prank bro."
I say all of the above assuming we're talking about a competent adult/late teen doing the pranking... Obviously kids are fucking vicious to other kids... If it's a 10 year old traumatizing a 5 year old, That 10 year old is mentally torturing the 5 year old. But you can't hold a 10 year old to the same standards as someone more mature. That being said, That's not an example of Kids being kids. If your 10 year old does that to a 5 year old, you're a shit parent. Actually I shouldn't say that... There are obviously Amazing parents with shit kids... Actually I shouldn't say that either, Maybe those amazing parents aren't actually amazing.
Halloween pranks aren't punishment. They're in the spirit of fun. Kids need to know what to expect when they screw up. That's really important. Surprises in punishment won't create a secure kid. Just as important, parents need to know exactly how they're going to respond the next time the kid screws up. Nothing gets out of hand. Child abuse, aside from sexual abuse is always creative punishment.
Three life terms does sound extreme, but if you click the link i added a minute later, you'll see those two kept getting creative in their punishments.
I just read the additional info about the starving, whipping, burning, etc. This was waaaaaay worse than I thought (A woman dressing as a witch and scaring the kids when they act up).
I agree its bad parenting (scaring kids to teach them a lesson).
However holy shit I had no clue this case was as fucked as it is.
I'd consider spam to be the constant posting of content that's disruptive and/or devoid of value. Personally I think he's drawing attention to something important with that.
jesus_is_lord ago
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
Ozzsanity ago
That kid was a bit of a pussy. It seems like a lot of these new generation youngins are a bit on the pussy side.
PsyOp ago
This shit isn't new...People claim to be concerned about child abuse but the truth is: outta sight, outta mind. If I had my way, we would have a training curriculum and a licensing procedure for competent parenting...this would go a long way toward eliminating this garbage from our society, plus it would reduce the population by denying unqualified people procreation liberties.
ScreaminMime ago
Lucky she didn't dress as a clown, that would had been FIVE life sentences!
ArcherMcTaco ago
Someone informed me of that. All I watched was the video, not read the full details. Holy fuck, this cunt deserves to die.
Rotteuxx ago
Torture her in a public display of corporal punishment as a warning to others. Death is peaceful compared to what she did to that kid.
ArcherMcTaco ago
I may of misunderstoof how far this went. I assumed from the video she was dressing up as a witch and scaring the kids. I had no clue about the burning, whipping, starving. This is worse than I thought with the scaring and backhanding.
Adminstrater ago
Every few years we get this story of a mother or a grandmother that abuses their children. How do you protect children from their own, supposed, guardians?
I am cynical when it comes to the belief that society will ever be able to do enough to protect children from the people that are supposed to care for the children under their aegis.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
Easy. You have an actual Child Protective Services. No matter what, a kid being born into abusive parents is going to take a large toll on a kid... However, it could be easily overcome with proper Child Services. I mean "easily" compared to the current practice of "rehabilitating children." Which is obviously non existent.
The real question is how do you Make child protective services, A legit Service.... Ok, well they're both real questions.
jerry ago
MOAR CPS!! Its not like the one we have now is being used to incorrectly remove children from their families home because they moved away from the city to live off the land in a cabin and just homeschool the kids!
bourbonexpert ago
yet, somehow, people are still against the death penalty. why wouldnt you just should the offenders in the face?
Ozzsanity ago
I sure hope they put those yapping little dogs down.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
Why don't you put the yapping kids down as well.. You seem really smart.
Ozzsanity ago
You seem really obsessed.
DeadMary ago
There is a lot we are not hearing about this case, and it's either to protect the child or an ongoing investigation involving the future arrest of others in the area.
Either way, you don't get 3 life sentences for being 'creative' with beating your kid. She was up to something much much worse.
crashing_this_thread ago
She straight up tortured the kid. The video doesn't show years of torture and abuse.
Crow_T_robocop ago
Fucking White Trash.
ArcherMcTaco ago
Seeing part where person pretends to be which to stop children from being bad my first thought was, okay not cool but any jail time is overkill.
Then at the end she back hands them and video cuts out..... Yeah, fuck this bitch. You you got what you deserved. You aren't trying to be creative with discipline, you're trying to make no one believe your kids when they talk about being beaten.
gazillions ago
As soon as the kid started screaming she was way over the line. That kid was terrified, and so was the boy on the couch. "Creative discipline" is insane and immature.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/14/oklahoma-city-woman-accused-dressing-as-witch-abusing-grandchild-is-sentenced.html
artfullyours ago
Not immature...sadistic!
ArcherMcTaco ago
I agree, but a jail sentence is overkill for just that. By that logic every holloween prank that scares a kid should be worth jail time too... Insane and immature are not jailable offenses.
But she physically abused them. She scared them and slapped them around. That is where it becomes more that being insane and immature.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
No. That's not "by that logic". It's not overkill. Halloween pranks are followed by taking off the mask and saying "It's ok, Look, It's just a mask. We're just pretending. Nothing to be scared of." Usually the scared kid will also have a guardian there who will give them a sense of protection. If someone doesn't stop "the prank" after the child is visibly traumatized, that's not "just a prank bro."
I say all of the above assuming we're talking about a competent adult/late teen doing the pranking... Obviously kids are fucking vicious to other kids... If it's a 10 year old traumatizing a 5 year old, That 10 year old is mentally torturing the 5 year old. But you can't hold a 10 year old to the same standards as someone more mature. That being said, That's not an example of Kids being kids. If your 10 year old does that to a 5 year old, you're a shit parent. Actually I shouldn't say that... There are obviously Amazing parents with shit kids... Actually I shouldn't say that either, Maybe those amazing parents aren't actually amazing.
gazillions ago
Halloween pranks aren't punishment. They're in the spirit of fun. Kids need to know what to expect when they screw up. That's really important. Surprises in punishment won't create a secure kid. Just as important, parents need to know exactly how they're going to respond the next time the kid screws up. Nothing gets out of hand. Child abuse, aside from sexual abuse is always creative punishment.
Three life terms does sound extreme, but if you click the link i added a minute later, you'll see those two kept getting creative in their punishments.
ArcherMcTaco ago
I just read the additional info about the starving, whipping, burning, etc. This was waaaaaay worse than I thought (A woman dressing as a witch and scaring the kids when they act up).
I agree its bad parenting (scaring kids to teach them a lesson).
However holy shit I had no clue this case was as fucked as it is.
gallowpoo ago
youtube spammer, http://archive.is/53SoV
hafen ago
I'd consider spam to be the constant posting of content that's disruptive and/or devoid of value. Personally I think he's drawing attention to something important with that.
clowntrash ago
Evil. Deserves death.
OoLaLaFrenchGirl ago
I agree. Jail is too good for this vile piece of excrement.