New Rule List (news)

submitted ago by AmyAcker

Thanks to everyone who participated in the rules discussion. The sidebar has been amended to reflect the current rules.

  1. No Paywalls: The link must be easily accessible, without signing up or spending money. Please use an archive for known paywall sites or include one in the comments section.

  2. No URL Shorteners or Redirects: Link directly to the article. Archive links are allowed.

  3. Please translate non-English articles: Use Google Translate in the link or post the translation in the comments.

Important notes: Generally, paywalled sites and non-English articles are flaired and an archive/translation is posted in the comments. URL shorteners are permitted if they come from the site (e.g. reut.rs = Reuters).

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Boukert ago

  • I think allowing twitter as a source is a mistake. This will fill the sub with A. more unreliable news B. more none news "Hillary blew her nose" C. Links to deleted tweets D. no background stories.

  • I also noticed the complete lack of description over the posts. Nothing mentioned about the fact that posts have to do anything about the news, have to be recent or anything.

Does this make /v/news the new /v/whatever but no posting meme's and no posting paywalls?

Just trying to be in before the trolls

To a lesser extend:

  • All caps headlines are ok now?

  • the title doesnt have to be the headline of the article anymore?

  • I think we should re-enstate the rule about social media and blogs to atleast give the impression we are trying to have an objective news forum. As this is becoming more and more a circlejerk instead of a source for global news events (isnt that the intention of this sub?).

;Made an edit to include some points

AmyAcker ago

Does this make /v/news the new /v/whatever but no posting meme's and no posting paywalls?

In effect, yes.

All caps headlines are ok now?

Yes.

the title doesnt have to be the headline of the article anymore?

It never had to be a direct copy of the article's title; the title just had to be factual (i.e. not editorialized). All headlines will now be user enforced.

I think we should re-enstate the rule about social media and blogs to atleast give the impression we are trying to have an objective news forum. As this is becoming more and more a circlejerk instead of a source for global news events (isnt that the intention of this sub?).

Kevdude made a post about social media deletion and Atko weighed in.

Boukert ago

Thanks for the swift reply,

So basically we killed our default news subverse as a reliable news source?

I think this is a bad development as voat needs a proper newsfeed to be taken serious as a platform. The few rules this subverse had, served their purpose to atleast some extend to keep the circlejerk to a minimum and attention focussed on actual recent news. I fear with these rules (or lack off) the circlejerkers will completely take over, background news or sources will be absent and this sub literally has no added value. As it is one of the most important subs for a medium such as this, it will only scare newcomers away or prove critics in their theory that voat is a hate site. (which it wasn't before the mass migrations)

@atko might be the founder but I dissagree with him on this point, there are plenty of unbiased newsoutlets out there and atleast with media outlets you have a context to place their stories in. I think this is a rather shortsighted and bias awnser to a complex issue.

Boukert ago

@ForksandGuys

@Typo

@kevdude (calling you in as you seem heavily invested in both discussions and as i missed the first one I would like your input)