Idea to make subvers requests more visable for the voat community in order to curb /v/subverserequests abuse (ideasforvoat)

submitted ago by blipblipbeep

G'day all,

@Owlchemy came up with an idea here that I have expanded upon to create a concept that I think may work if implemented. The following quote is where I started.

there should be a system in place where the subscribers are informed that a sub request has been put in.

Awesome idea Chemy mate,

To expand on @Owlchemy idea, all subverse requests could be indicated in the /v/all sidebar as a number showing the total of existing unresolved requests. Hovering over the number activates a drop down that contains a list of the subverse titles being requested. Each subverse title in the drop down links to the corresponding request in /v/subverserequests. Also system sub requests should have their own drop down in the /v/all sidebar.

Further measures to insure everybody that wants a say gets a say.

When clicking submit for a system or regular subverse request, it starts a one month/week timer that is visible within the request submission and next to its corresponding /v/all drop down subverse title. Any request still counting down can't be granted. The requests that have the shortest time remaining should be at the top of the drop downs.

Breakdown of idea:

  1. A subverse request submission starts a visible countdown timer within the submission header.

  2. A number within the /v/all sidebar shows the total of existing unresolved subverse requests.

  3. Hovering over the number activates a drop down that contains a list of the subverse titles and the time remaining before it can be granted.

  4. Each subverse title in the drop down links back to the corresponding request in /v/subverserequests.

  5. Do the same with a second drop down that only lists system subverse requests but also have any requested system subverse titles ticker/scroll across the sidebar as well.

What do you think crew?

All the best,

peace...

guinness2 ago

How about also making an automatic post to the specific sub about the request if it isn't immediately rejected: to notify that community directly... not just the subscribers?

blipblipbeep ago

I tried to cover that in my first edit (+1) regarding Owlchemy's suggestion from a diff post thread.

  1. A subverse request submission starts a visible countdown timer within the submission header, (c1) then its posted into the drop down of /v/all (+1) as well as being posted in the sidebar of its respective subverse.

peace

guinness2 ago

Yes, however that seems like an over-engineered solution to me, given just sending an automated post should be sufficient, rather than having more mechanisms in the side-bar.

Atko and PuttItOut will be far more likely to act on suggestions that have fewer moving parts... given Voat isn't their main job.

I'm not sure how often people check or would notice a sidebar change, however users are far more likely to see regular post...

Edit: Perhaps make the post automatically become the sticky too?

blipblipbeep ago

Yes, however that seems like an over-engineered solution to me

I sorta feel that if your gonna do something, its probably better to do it right the first time. That does not invalidate your suggestion to trim the fat, as it were. this suggestion is a very wise one, although its good to know your options before you start reducing them.

Atko and PuttItOut will be far more likely to act on suggestions that have fewer moving parts... given Voat isn't their main job.

I think there may be other people that help out in that department as well??? Idkfs.

I'm not sure how often people check or would notice a sidebar change, however users are far more likely to see regular post...

Voat's power users that jumped on this issue through the /v/Space, /v/Niggers and /v/Canada mod replacements would have no problem finding and using the tools I have described. Also an upgrade ilke this would require a front page announcement from admin.

Edit: Perhaps make the post automatically become the sticky too?

This is a good idea provided there isn't already a crap mod in waiting to except a crap power mod. It would work if the sticky could not be turned off for the duration of the application processes.

I have also been thinking that a probation period of assessment for a new owner moderator is a reasonable angle to pursue.

I'm gonna do an edit link to your above thread post for refrence to your idea of simplification as it is part of the process, before handing it on to the wizards.

Thanks for your input to date @guinness2 mate.

peace...

guinness2 ago

I have also been thinking that a probation period of assessment for a new owner moderator is a reasonable angle to pursue.

Nah, I think if a mod has faked it long enough to worm his way into owning a sub, then they'd be willing to fake it a little longer during a probation period.

What may happen is the community may start throwing stones at the new owner because they don't like one of his older posts or they don't like that he's a relatively new user... however this will just muddy the waters because you can bet the cucks and CTR whores will create alts to Concern Troll and post objections about legitimate mods.

That's my humble opinion anyway...

Thanks for your input to date @guinness2 mate.

My pleasure.

blipblipbeep ago

Nah, I think if a mod has faked it long enough to worm his way into owning a sub, then they'd be willing to fake it a little longer during a probation period.

I was reading through the admin sticky today on /v/all, and got the distinct impression that, it doesn't matter how long an asshole reddit infiltrator waits to be cleared and excepted. If their objective is to stir the pot and create their own narrative without following the original rules of the subverse or including the original subscribers ideas. They are history. A preexisting subverse with no rules = voat's no post, comment or subscriber deletion or banning rules, until otherwise elected by its subscriber community.

So basically the order of influence from most important to least is... Voat.co's rule of free speech, then the user/subscribers, then the Admin and or then the subverse moderators.

If that looks/seems weird to you? Just remember that we are all user subscribers.

peace...

blipblipbeep ago

Just spoke with Owlchemy who had more great ideas regarding this that should be addressed. So it seems that there is still room for improvement.

Watch this post for updates.

peace...