robot7247 ago

Do you have the routing fixture yet? Search around, prices vary wildly. IIRC ghostguns.com at one point had some of the lowest $$$ ones.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

a friend of mine built one so im going to see if he still has it

robot7247 ago

Will be interested in your progress.

Never bought any 80% lowers, up to the point that the '94 AWB was imminent, 100% lowers were cheap...

clamhurt_legbeard ago

ive owned zero ars

but i found this for like 25 bucks

well see how cheap this cheap lower ends up

first guess

1500 bucks lol

Artooweaboo ago

Consider a lpvo 1-6 or 1-4 with rds on 45 mount like they do for 3 gun. Between the two you have near zero failure probability.

I’d go .300 BO/7.62x39/.458 socom in pistol or longer range in 6.5 Grendel. But only if you reload.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

i agree with your ideas for fatter rounds out of a pistol

i already have an ak in 7.62 tho so ive been planning on 5.56 for this

i forgot about 6.5 grendel

so many 6mm these days

ill have to remind myself what its all about

Artooweaboo ago

If you already have AK, don't bother with .223 out of a AR pattern. I'd chamber it in .223 Wylde if you have to, but, I'd argue 7.62 is an arguably better and cheaper round. You could also more effectively suppress it and run sub-sonics in it and still have some power. I guess you could run .223 if you were varmint hunting or something.

I'd start here for grendel. Some people know what they're talking about, it'll take some time to sort out.

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/

I have been reloading it for almost a year now. It is 'harder' to get universal loads for it, unlike .308. I can discuss why, if you're interested. I'd think about spending the money up front on a barrel from someone with a reputation for shooting commercial ammo well. I cheaped out on the barrel and got a bear creek, because I knew I'd be reloading anyway. But it is possible I could have saved money by having to do less load development if I had gotten a 'better' barrel. I have learned a lot. But you never know until you get the barrel. ~1/2 MOA isn't shabby out of an autoloader.

I'd be more than happy to help out if you have any reloading or AR-pattern questions, if I know the answers.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

why not do 5.56

i have two aks

one 5.45 and one 7.62x39

as a general concept i tend to go with the rule of ammo i can find without issue in somalia

tho i do have access to good reloading equipment

ive heard the name 223 wylde

sootch00 said it was the best of both worlds between 223 and 556 but i dont know more than that

Artooweaboo ago

Well it doesn’t do anything that 7.62 doesn’t do as well. You only need enough ammo to get their weapon. I like to think functionality.

6.5 gives you 1000 yard capability.

Wylde lets you shoot 5.56 and .223

clamhurt_legbeard ago

5.56 is flatter shooting than 7.62x39

5.45 is much more redundant

but how big does it matter to have a 223 wylde chamber for 556 and 223

how much of a difference is it compared to 223 out of 556

Artooweaboo ago

Agreed, on both counts, but flatter isn't better. There is a trade off. Different calibers for different applications.

.223 wylde was designed to shoot both, the accuracy of .223 Rem with the higher pressure of the 5.56.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

why is more pressure better

is it because flatter is better lol

seriously tho i think flatter is always better

its just a question of whether or not the total package is worth it when including recoil

terminal effects

etc

doesntgetsarcasm ago

Thanks for the mention.

How are you planning to machine your lower? I used 5d tacticals jig for mine.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

i have a friend who built one

i believe he had his own jig and still has it

but i havent talked to him yet to confirm

and i dont know what brand it is or any of the pros and cons

how did you like yours

doesntgetsarcasm ago

I've done quite a few. They all turned out ok, The safety is tight in most of them for some reason so I guess I'll file that a little bit and try to get some of them loosened up. I don't even use those guns, I just put them together for spares.

Are you planning to paint yours or anodize it? I've anodized and dyed most of mine, My friend cerakotes his. The last gun him and his brother cerakoted(not an 80%)for a charity auction they did a battle worn look where they painted it pink and then painted it black and just rubbed some of the black off to make it look worn.

Have you ever heard of elctro etching? It's kind of neat to engrave stuff into the lowers and its pretty easy to do.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

i was planning on cerakoting it myself

give the receiver a real durable finish for actual protection

then spray paint everything camo lol

ive done crude electroetching with a cell phone charger and a qtip dipped in salt water

slow but actually works surprisingly well

did selector markings on my bulgarian ak and my dads romanian

im going to need to do that on the blank too

i was going to have them do it

except it cost ten bucks

and im only paying 35 shipped lol

ill figure something out though

i could even just put a dot with paint in it

tth667 ago

Can you fit it with a binary trigger?

clamhurt_legbeard ago

probably but honestly i see no need to

semi auto goes bang bang real good

tth667 ago

Got it. Gonna be a badass build, binary or not. Good luck with it.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

thank you sir

i have no idea how many of these posts i will do

but i figure itll be fun and help me figure out my thoughts through discussion with everybody here

ive already potentially shifted to just getting the lightest barrel instead of hammer forged

with modern processes it is better than it was

and with this build im thinking about going all in to maximize the things the ar is best at

tth667 ago

You're gonna go down in history for merging the genius of kalishnokov with the genius of stoner, the penultimate does-e everything rifle that blends carbine with main battle rifle. Fucking Godspeed clammy, our prayers are with you. History is yours for the making. The preceding may be dramatized, maybe even hyperbolic, I've been drinking, but the essence is pure, and your new rifle is probbla gonna be badass. Proceed.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

on my aks the rear sling swivel is right behind the pistol grip

snug it up to get it out of the way like this

just this morning i found a way to make the sling on an ar do that

im pretty pumped

blumen4alles ago

No iron sights?

That was one of my requirements with my configs (backup iron sights). I also setup a co-witness on my AR. What would you do if your electronic sight or optics failed?

Glad to hear you got a good deal on your lower!

clamhurt_legbeard ago

ya this is what im going to try

thoughts on optics

aimpoint t1

if the optic fails that means the weapon and my body failed long before lol

or maybe i get something passive like tritium or ambient light

i figure this is a good way to save a bit of money without committing to anything

i can put irons on later if it bothers me

this thing is pretty experimental

i already have two aks if i actually needed a carbine for anything life and death

and in the meantime i can experiment with this and do unorthodox things

drakesdoom2 ago

Vortex makes a 1x prisim optic. 1moa dot, two rings around that. Normal battery, but short life. Illuminates red or green, daylight bright to dead of night dim. I don't have night vision but there is a lower setting them what I set at night that might work. Reticle is etched in the glass so even with no power you have a black dot with two rings.

Saves a lot more money then an aimpoint.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

exactly

there are some very cool optics out there nowadays

ill check that one out too

Armpit_and_Ass ago

why are you putting one sentence per line

and also not using any punctuation

who writes like this

are you some kind of illiterate retard

blumen4alles ago

I use that style sometimes

helps me keep my thoughts straight

effective way of getting points across too

Armpit_and_Ass ago

Yeah, no, not really. I made it three sentences in, rolled my eyes, and moved on. This is shit they teach us in first grade. Have some self respect, white man.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

clamvoice uses no punctuation

each sentence needs its own line to avoid runon sentences lol

Armpit_and_Ass ago

So, an illiterate retard. Gotcha.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

literacy is a social construct lol

drakesdoom2 ago

So faxon barrels are not cold hammer forged, but the have muzzle devices no larger then the barrel so you can put your own gas block on.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

truth

the biggest reason im thinking of going with an entire bcm upper is because they are excellent quality with full testing on all their parts

im big on mpi testing etc

i really like cold hammer forging because of the strength it gives to the metal

i want to encourage that industry

tho modern metallurgy may make that unnecessary nowadays

i havent checked too much but my understanding is colt has always been using button rifles barrels

and those are military grade

so who can say

there is definitely something to be said for taking advantage of the ease in assembling an ar

its not hard to put a barrel on myself

drakesdoom2 ago

Cold hammer forging used to be good because it doesn't inside heat stress. Modern barrels can be button rifled then stress relieved. Or just go bull barrel for a solid bayonet mount.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

yeah thats kinda my thought

i dunno man

my other option is lightened and fluted barrel

but honestly i think were talking a max of six ounces

then again the 14.5 barrel is i think only 3oz lighter than 16 and i already thought that was important

ounces make pounds

decisions

drakesdoom2 ago

I went pencil 16 inch so I could play with muzzle devices. They have 5 different cut barrels so there are choices.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

the other thing i need to worry about is the barrel getting hot

inrange did a test on poi change

faxons barrels did well

i can only assume bcm also does well

or buy a faxon

drakesdoom2 ago

I have run mine as hard as the barrel on my cheap rifle and it didn't move when the cheap rifle did.

That doesn't say anything about bcm though.

My understanding is any bull barrel is good. It's light barrels that are tricky.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

true dat

i might just go full light and see what happens

its still gonna be heavier than my 10/22 barrel i imagine

and thats at least as serious a gun as this will be

that is for food

thantik ago

AR "pistol"

clamhurt_legbeard ago

thats definitely an option

but with 5.56 im not sure theres a big advantage

5.56 is pretty velocity dependant for fragmentation last i heard

id be more interested in a pistol for 7.62x39 or 6.8 i think

are there any 5.56 options that fragment to say 100 m out of a 10.5 in barrel

drakesdoom2 ago

I would look into concussion from a 10.5 5.56 barrel first. Even if you can find ammo that will be effective, would you want to use it?

clamhurt_legbeard ago

to follow up on my results here

the answer is even military guys are like holy shit 10.5 is too loud

put a can on it or just go with 14.5

so thats good to know

dashantavious ago

Sweet, looking forward to seeing the build.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

then im gonna paint it lol

dashantavious ago

Just leave it be - it's going to be gorgeous just as it is. And when you decide to give it to ol' Dash remember: I like it raw.

The gun, I mean. When you want to give me the gun.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

lol not a chance

im gonna paint it with fancy shit

then paint over it with trash

lol

dashantavious ago

Nooooooooooooooooooooo! Don't treat my gun the way you treat random ladies at the ATM!

Do a good job building my gun, yo.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

its gonna look fucking awesome when i get through with it

dashantavious ago

I dunno man. Just leave it alone for a while. I'm starting to think you'd paint a Browning hi power.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

i dont paint things with souls

ar has no soul

it is a battle droid

dashantavious ago

Wtf? Give Fart2 a chance! Dude, you love your 22. This is the most badass 22 in the world. It's going to rock you up your... Oh, I'm not I the right sub to talk like that. Anyway, you're going to love it. Nts will be jealous.

drakesdoom2 ago

Tan anti rust primer it is.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

hahaha

fuck yeah

im gonna go way simpler than my 22

two or one color

derram ago

https://invidio.us/watch?v=Z_yKIcxJCIw :

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