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frenemy ago

i disagree. it was a bad move down a slippery slope. censorship is censorship.

you have had a justice boner for aged for months. last time you did this shit, putt said it was allowed even if he didn't like it. then you had a nervous breakdown. now it seems that it just takes is putt agreeing that he doesn't like content to get a user banned from a system sub. i think that's a huge step backwards. definitely not in line with the spirit of the site. not unless we are no longer about free speech.

honestly, this whole thing was badly handled.

eggsaladsandwich ago

It's not censorship to maintain a community based around a specific topic. You're only calling it censorship because of the nature of the content in question. If someone was posting cooking videos to this sub it wouldn't be a conversation about censorship but simply one about "why the fuck are you not posting this shit in v/cooking or something?"

You wouldn't go to a civil war reenactment event dressed as a storm trooper and talk about star wars the whole time. It's just ridiculous.

Free speech doesn't mean we have to humour every autistic retard in every context no matter what.

You're free to post whatever you want. But why deliberately post it in a community that is obviously not about that thing, when there are communities out there already, on other sites as well as here on voat, that are specifically for that content? When you do deliberately post content that is off-topic to a specific community, it appears less like a statement about free speech than simply an autistic troll campaign.

frenemy ago

but that's not what the rules say. the posts are technically gaming related. if you want to change the rules, that's certainly a discussion i would be interested in. make a fan art rule. banning a user is way to heavy handed.

eggsaladsandwich ago

Yeah, I mean I suppose it's slightly more nuanced in that sense. On the one hand, if it's fan art themed around video game characters, there is an argument to be made there.

But I'm just saying that it can appear disingenuous. Like using a thin veneer of "gaming" to push something that is not really gaming related. It reminds me of those titty cosplayers who dont really know or care about vg, but they stream and go to all the conventions dressed in what amounts to glorified lingerie in a painfully obvious attempt to profit off of horny pre-teen gamers.

Obviously this is all my perspective, and I don't claim to have all the answers. I'm always open to new arguments and the possibility that I might be wrong. For the record I do believe that free speech is absolutely vital and should be visciously defended, so I definitely understand where you're coming from.

It actually presents an interesting situation here. Almost seems like he's trying to make hypocrites out of voaters who like to think of ourselves as advocates and protectors of free speech by forcing us to call for censorship. It's like this case is almost perfectly designed to bring this set of circumstances about.

That's not a bad thing, though. Like you, I am also interested in discussion and hearing what other people think.

frenemy ago

that's all i was trying to get through. it's more complicated than 'ban the pedo!'. if people start thinking like that, voat is done being a free speech site.