Well, let's see here... I see whole pages of spam, with one exception, that being @ExpertShitposter who appears to be the one person @Kadynce has banned for anything.
Hmmm... Let's check the removed comments log and removed submissions log to see what the issue may be. Nothing in the past two months has been removed from submissions, and Cynabuns did the removing for older stuff. I don't see any removed comments from ES either...
ExpertShitposter, as he is wont to do, was spamming his shitpost faggotry!
This is however a system sub, and as we can see from the searchvoat above, Shitposter is in fact a regular contributer to this sub. Banning him because you don't appreciate his (admittedly shitty) content is not acceptable. That's what downvotes are for.
A great assessment overall, but you put this part beautifully:
This is however a system sub, and as we can see from the searchvoat above, Shitposter is in fact a regular contributer to this sub. Banning him because you don't appreciate his (admittedly shitty) content is not acceptable. That's what downvotes are for.
None of /v/gaming's community rules address quality, and that's by design; we're not here to judge quality. The community has the tools to judge quality directly. A mod's only job is to respect the community's wishes, whatever they may be.
In /v/gaming that's meant working with the community directly to agree on rules, respecting the people you interact with even as you apply the community's rules, and constantly working from the perspective of what the community wants.
As you said, I don't think banning @ExpertShitposter was the constructive call, and I'm glad that @Kadynce reverted the ban. Mods are human, and making a metric ton of spam and rule decisions means we screw up sometimes. But I think it's important for us to recognize when we do and work to make it right by the community.
I hope that things don't escalate on either side and we can reach harmony again, but every individual gets to decide if they want to continue to spend time in /v/gaming, and that's just the way it should be.
I'm sad to say I have to side with Shitposter on this. Part of moderating a community like /v/gaming is having the user's trust. And Kadynce has absolutely lost mine.
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Fambida ago
Well, let's see here... I see whole pages of spam, with one exception, that being @ExpertShitposter who appears to be the one person @Kadynce has banned for anything.
Hmmm... Let's check the removed comments log and removed submissions log to see what the issue may be. Nothing in the past two months has been removed from submissions, and Cynabuns did the removing for older stuff. I don't see any removed comments from ES either...
One last attempt to figure out what may be going on: Let's check searchvoat... https://searchvoat.co/?t=&s=gaming&u=ExpertShitposter&d=&b=on&nsfw=off And here we go!
ExpertShitposter, as he is wont to do, was spamming his shitpost faggotry!
This is however a system sub, and as we can see from the searchvoat above, Shitposter is in fact a regular contributer to this sub. Banning him because you don't appreciate his (admittedly shitty) content is not acceptable. That's what downvotes are for.
ChillyHellion ago
A great assessment overall, but you put this part beautifully:
None of /v/gaming's community rules address quality, and that's by design; we're not here to judge quality. The community has the tools to judge quality directly. A mod's only job is to respect the community's wishes, whatever they may be.
In /v/gaming that's meant working with the community directly to agree on rules, respecting the people you interact with even as you apply the community's rules, and constantly working from the perspective of what the community wants.
As you said, I don't think banning @ExpertShitposter was the constructive call, and I'm glad that @Kadynce reverted the ban. Mods are human, and making a metric ton of spam and rule decisions means we screw up sometimes. But I think it's important for us to recognize when we do and work to make it right by the community.
I hope that things don't escalate on either side and we can reach harmony again, but every individual gets to decide if they want to continue to spend time in /v/gaming, and that's just the way it should be.
Fambida ago
I'm sad to say I have to side with Shitposter on this. Part of moderating a community like /v/gaming is having the user's trust. And Kadynce has absolutely lost mine.