/v/gaming is my favorite community on Voat. I've spent more of my time here with more great people than anywhere else online or offline. I've been a member of the community for a year now, and in that time I've always done my best to respect the community, enforce rules fairly, push for more straightforward rules and regularly bring those rules up with the community for revision. I've been an active mod, flairing the majority of posts you've seen in the past year, often the first mod available when someone has an issue or reports spam. Most of the bans in the ban log are mine, and most of the post removals in the modlog are mine. I've always cited a reason for every action, and been quick to reverse an action the few times I've made a mistake.
That's what brings me to today. Rule 3 (harassment) has always had the support of the /v/gaming community. It's definition has been tightened to require bullying that is both targeted AND sustained. This definition has remained unchanged the past few times the rules have been up for review, and as I'm writing this I'm replacing the previous sticky which was a review of rule 3 specifically, up since yesterday. That said, rules are only a proxy for the community's will, and they're imperfect. Sticking with an unpopular rule despite community outcry shows disrespect for that community at the highest level.
For that reason, I'm setting aside any stubbornness or pride and reversing any and all of my subverse bans that include only harassment as a cause. I'd like to take that a step further, but because /v/gaming's rules are owned by the community, I need to ask you first: may I have your permission to suspend rule 3 indefinitely and remove it from the list of /v/gaming's rules? Rule 3 also includes doxxing and brigading, which should both already be covered by the site-wide terms of service.
I'm still reading through my inbox, but I promise that each and every comment will receive a reply. I apologize for the delay, but I'm just waking up in Alaska this morning.
Finally, I'd like to personally thank the /v/gaming community for being a place for everyone and the best place on the web to talk video games. The past year has been relatively drama-free, and more a testament to your hard work and level-headedness than mine.
As always, let me know if there's anything I can help with, and happy gaming!
Edit: also, what do you think of a site-wide user block button? No one likes hecklers, especially when they follow you around. The downside of handling that a subverse level is that everyone's definition of harassment is different. So why not put user blocking tools in the hands of each individual? Then they can make that decision on their own, in a way that doesn't affect others. I know a block button has been on the to-do list for Voat for a while, but I've made a request in /v/IdeasForVoat just as a reminder of why this functionality would benefit the community: https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/comments/1211887
Edit 2: in light of the overwhelming feedback we've received, the anti-harassment rule (and the superfluous doxxing/brigading section of the same rule) has been removed.
I appreciate everyone who took the time to weigh in on this change, and encourage everyone in the community to make their voice heard whenever we bring any and all of these rules forward for review.
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FullyBespokedTomato ago
While I disagree with the reversal I applaud your actions and responsible disposition.
I would agree that if you feel doxxing/brigading are fully covered without rule #3 and you (the mods of v/gaming) are trying to step back from the "harassment" restrictions, then the rule doesn't make sense.
Fuck'em, let the trolls get downvoated to hell for not adding anything to the discussion and keep your hands clean/head off the witchhunt lists.
ChillyHellion ago
I appreciate the great feedback :) I know it's not possible to please everyone all of the time, but /v/gaming's modteam has always done a good job of approaching the community with any and all changes to the rules, only implementing them upon request. Rule 3 has been around longer than I have, and has been up for review along with the rest of the subverse rules a few times - in fact the sticky that this sticky replaced was a rule 3 discussion thread.
What do you think of the idea raised in my edit about a block user button? that would allow each individual user to handle harassment themselves without impacting others on the sub. It's functionality that would have to be implemented on a site level, but it's been on the admin's to-do list for a long time: https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/comments/1211887
FullyBespokedTomato ago
No worries, I have no complaints about the work that you and the other mods are doing here in v/gaming.
I saw this shit kickoff and generally avoid getting into other mod's modding tactics as a rule. If I hate the way thing are going I just find somewhere else to spend my time. You could certainly do with one less whinging pom.
I am a strong proponent of the block user function. I really like the block subverse function already, why not be able to condemn the shitty trolls/spammers to a room all by themselves? They can still have their "free speech" and not waste my time with it either.
ChillyHellion ago
My thoughts exactly :)
FullyBespokedTomato ago
You have my voat for King of the Mods!
ChillyHellion ago
I appreciate the support! I'm happy just serving one active community at a time with a few hobby subs to tend to. The real king of the mods is the community, but in reality it's more of an equal partnership :)