10 c0ments? How do you expect me to post 4 comments? This one comment I posted has been banned oy to the vey you owe me 6 million comments Putt. Shaloms✡️
It doesn't look like he's complaining about post limits at all. He's complaining about downvoat brigades on anything that's not conservative. I actually agree with that. It causes decent comments to be buried, and possible manipulation by anyone motivated enough
Private subs can ban people. The public ones cannot (unless Putt does it, like he did with the faggot spamming pedo shit in v/gaming). Even then, when private subs get all ban happy, goats call them out on it, and the sub usually dies because other goats abandon it, leaving the reddit-tier faggot mod with nobody to lord over.
Voaters ban people who are not conservative enough
Voat does not downvoat or ban you if you're not conservative enough. There are democrat/left/liberal people here who to not hate a specific race or religion but aren't complete asshat douchnozzles and they don't get downvoated, banned, or even hated. It's all about what you believe, if you try to push it on others.
also depends on how you word your argument, if you have one.
a well thought out with logic and reason comment, even if it goes against what people think, normally wont get upvoated but also wont get downvoated, i have done it numerous times on here.
when they complain its normally about a comment that got downvoated 2 times on a 1 comment thread and they provide a wild claim with no argument.
and its not even no sources, just a claim with out even any logic behind it.
Exactly. It's not that we won't listen to the opposition. Most of us are just tired of the bullshit. We'll talk. Challenge us, maybe. But don't come in here like an idiot.
He's just having a bad experience because his delivery is lacking. I've had constructed conversations with people about why Christianity is Jewish and a cuck religion and they're surprisingly receptive to it as long as you don't come across as a cunt.
10 comments per day are plenty. Especially on a website with a cozy size like voat.
If reddit would replace shadowbans with a 10 comments limit I'd still be active over there simply because I could reach more outsiders.
Instead I recall that one day my comments and submissions all of a sudden no longer received any upvotes. Shadowbans are far more insidious than outright censorship.
I'm actually really surprised I made the top 50 posters of the week not too long ago, considering the size of the site now coupled with the fact that I post much less frequently than I did in the previous years. That tells me there are very few regular people using accounts like normal human beings and several people using several alts to create an illusion of a greater number of users.
yah that guys still not a spam bot nor is he posting CP. I'm not fan of that policy either. When voat was first founded supposedly it was kicked around there would not even BE a down vote feature only upvotes. So you could support ideas but not actively try and silence them.
Then I found out if you get enough downvotes you get throttled to 10 comments a day? That is effectively the hive mind banning someone.
Are you fucking retarded? Nothing he says gets censored and he was not removed from anywhere. He's just a dumbass who complains about people caring about internet points when that's what he is literally doing.
Boo hoo downvoats. Nobody likes what I say. I'm gonna try to blame it on them.
Don't you remember the absolute insane amount of spam like three years ago? I'd wake up every morning and have to downvoat the ENTIRE front page. It was all like India and Pakistani spam that I don't even think was in legible English.
I remember when voat gave a fuck about free speech
How old is that 10 comment limit rule?
More and more support for censorship
How many comment's do you need per day to make your case known?
With an alt it's 20. Make it two and it's 30.
In those comments you can write whatever you want. Jews are great. Some women marry ugly homeless men (that's my most downvoted comment in an incel thread).
If you don't spam and provide sources or original arguments that's probably enough comments to fill an evening - at least.
Meanwhile it cuts down on spam (which makes original content less visible!)
If you actually get into arguments/fights or go to multiple subverses, then you could use up your comments quickly depending on how active you are and how active Voat is.
Further, Voat Inc isn't banning him. The community at large dislikes how he behaves. This is in no way comparable to the Twitter and FB bans. You fail.
Yeah threads like I'm Pooping are some serious political discourse. Look out Karl Marx. He contributes nothing of value. Pick a different venue to compare it to. I was picturing an adult dinner party. Pick a different place, your local restaurant or bar, the library, a meeting of your book club,anywhere a group has gathered. There are rules and when you break them you may find yourself not welcome.
but it isn't. You're still allowed to post and comment. Imagine you're the mod of a voice chatroom. The only rules of the chatroom is no censorship, no spam, and no illegal shit (cp). Everything goes fine, until one day this asshat starts coming in the chatroom. He routinely talks over everyone else, starts petty fights, and spouts just utter garbage. He's ruining the chatroom, and people are starting to become frustrated and thinking of leaving. You want to remove him, but he's a conniving little fuck and has made sure to not break any of the rules, so if you ban him for being the fuckwad he is, he can prattle on about "muh free speech". What do you do?
I know what I would do. Mute his ass every time he starts mouthing off until he gets the fucking point, and stops acting like a fucking nigger.
Yeah the 10 comments a day which limits (Not extinguishes) but limits your potential of speech, along with making it so you can't make posts, which also limits speech, means the group can bully you into having little speech until you "wise" up and blindly join their side so you can get a positive karma.
That just rubs me as a form of subtle subconscious censorship as the community is forcing me to change my viewpoint, not by good arguments, but just downvote spam because I dared to think differently.
I mean you could look at my history and see that I asked for proof that the holocaust wasn't real, and instead of providing sources, this one guy just started cussing me out and eventually telling me to leave.
Of course since he came to me all hostile, I responded back hostile, but at the very start I wasn't hostile. But since he was part of the community, I got rekt when he started the hostility.
Besides that, look at 0fsgivin where he said "That is effectively the hive mind banning someone." and now his comment has lots of downvotes. I mean, he isn't spamming, he didn't show much or any hostility I can see, even talked about some of the history of voat, and gave his opinion (Not even calling anyone out it seems). Yet he got downvoted hard, so oof.
People don't like it if you ask them to do something and then tell them you don't give a fuck about what it is you expect them to do. Researching, even if you have knowledge on where to search, takes some time and effort. If you don't value the time and effort of others, of course they won't do it and get hostile at your entitled attitude. Would you really act differently? I would find that hard to believe, given that you described yourself as lazy and not caring.
Found another source](#s "[I agreed with abortion when the subverse was whatever, not anti abortion or something
As of right now it's at -3 downvotes.
If you manage to make just 1-2 halfway decent or funny comments that's easily offset. If you don't want to put in the effort you will still have at least 10 comments were you can be as offensive as you want.
Yes it's restricting you and ideally downvotes would be reserved for spam. But it's hardly censorship.
look at 0fsgivin where he said "That is effectively the hive mind banning someone."
People here dislike dishonesty. If someone can complain about being banned, at the place where they are supposedly banned from (!), they are not banned.
I think roughing it for a while is worth it do later not deal with bots and shitty paid trolls.
While yes it does force you to join the criclejerk for a while it also makes sure you want genuinely in and shape the community (in whatevery way) not just piss on the floor.
Also the downvote button was never meant as a I disagree button and in the erly days it worked, as voat grew shit got loast in translation.
For all I know you only downvote bots, trolls and Aged.
I don’t think it is even necessary to join the circlejerk. You just need to not be a troll for a period of time and stick to making reasonable comments in normal subs until you have the points.
I miss the old days when use of the downvote was almost unseen (hell, even upvotes were rare and needed to really be earned for good content). Too many people from banned reddit subs came here with their reddit behaviors still intact.
See, that right there is a good defense against the bullshit 'hivemind' argument.
I'm not going to bother going through your comment history because... well, fuck that.
But I'm going to assume this isn't the first thing you've ever shit on the President.
Your stats, (Member for 3.8 years. SCP: 1.7k(+1.9k|-165) CCP: 11.2k(+16.3k|-5k)
The reason that the 'hivemind' of evil Trump supporters haven't 'silenced' you into a 10 post a day limit is because you post actual content, make agreeable points, and otherwise contribute.
The nigger in question just openly stated that he just intends to fuck with people and will make several accounts to do so.
He's seriously here JUST to be a bitch.
remainselusive ago
"Nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger," -Rap Nigger
facepaint ago
Odd. I can post unpopular opinions here on voat. Sure, on occasion an opinion will get downvoats. And sometimes it leads to a good conversation.
Maybe it has to do with not being a total dick all of the time.
R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd ago
@niggerguy Yo dog, let me put dis like you can understand. Banning and downvoats are the same like parole and probation are the same.
Eg. They are not the same.
I'd normally say go back to school, but that is probably where you learned your association skills.
NiggerGuy ago
Awww isn't that sweet. This one thinks it is intelligent.
Hey brah. I don't care what you think of me. It really doesn't matter. You don't matter to me. Your opinion....doesn't mean anything.
Get a life dude. Put the keyboard and the joystick down. Maybe get some tendies or something in yah.
videocodec ago
Who wants niggers around. The fact that he is here shows they would rather be around whites and civilization than around other niggers
NosebergShekelman ago
10 c0ments? How do you expect me to post 4 comments? This one comment I posted has been banned oy to the vey you owe me 6 million comments Putt. Shaloms✡️
LegalTDImmigrant ago
It doesn't look like he's complaining about post limits at all. He's complaining about downvoat brigades on anything that's not conservative. I actually agree with that. It causes decent comments to be buried, and possible manipulation by anyone motivated enough
capnflummox ago
I've been banned from a sub here on voat...
What's this about?
Narow_Foe_Minsk ago
Private subs can ban people. The public ones cannot (unless Putt does it, like he did with the faggot spamming pedo shit in v/gaming). Even then, when private subs get all ban happy, goats call them out on it, and the sub usually dies because other goats abandon it, leaving the reddit-tier faggot mod with nobody to lord over.
capnflummox ago
You described the mod in question to a T.
totes_magotes ago
Voat does not downvoat or ban you if you're not conservative enough. There are democrat/left/liberal people here who to not hate a specific race or religion but aren't complete asshat douchnozzles and they don't get downvoated, banned, or even hated. It's all about what you believe, if you try to push it on others.
McFluffy ago
also depends on how you word your argument, if you have one.
a well thought out with logic and reason comment, even if it goes against what people think, normally wont get upvoated but also wont get downvoated, i have done it numerous times on here.
when they complain its normally about a comment that got downvoated 2 times on a 1 comment thread and they provide a wild claim with no argument.
and its not even no sources, just a claim with out even any logic behind it.
totes_magotes ago
Exactly. It's not that we won't listen to the opposition. Most of us are just tired of the bullshit. We'll talk. Challenge us, maybe. But don't come in here like an idiot.
fuckingmockies ago
He's just having a bad experience because his delivery is lacking. I've had constructed conversations with people about why Christianity is Jewish and a cuck religion and they're surprisingly receptive to it as long as you don't come across as a cunt.
Except the Boomers. There's no helping them.
Acerphoon ago
Tbh I also dislike the voting system in general. Hated it on reddit. Hated it on facebook. Hate it on voat.
Obviously this isn't comparable to a ban though.
Pubiclouse ago
Fuck points this isn't a fucking popularity contest faggot.
VoatsNewfag ago
10 comments per day are plenty. Especially on a website with a cozy size like voat.
If reddit would replace shadowbans with a 10 comments limit I'd still be active over there simply because I could reach more outsiders.
Instead I recall that one day my comments and submissions all of a sudden no longer received any upvotes. Shadowbans are far more insidious than outright censorship.
DANKESTGHIDORAH ago
I'm actually really surprised I made the top 50 posters of the week not too long ago, considering the size of the site now coupled with the fact that I post much less frequently than I did in the previous years. That tells me there are very few regular people using accounts like normal human beings and several people using several alts to create an illusion of a greater number of users.
0fsgivin ago
yah that guys still not a spam bot nor is he posting CP. I'm not fan of that policy either. When voat was first founded supposedly it was kicked around there would not even BE a down vote feature only upvotes. So you could support ideas but not actively try and silence them.
Then I found out if you get enough downvotes you get throttled to 10 comments a day? That is effectively the hive mind banning someone.
skittlesforhair ago
Are you fucking retarded? Nothing he says gets censored and he was not removed from anywhere. He's just a dumbass who complains about people caring about internet points when that's what he is literally doing.
H3r0n ago
Damn, if you aren’t a NiggerVirus alt I’d be surprised
0fsgivin ago
yah nice 9 day account.
H3r0n ago
I’m just a redditfag finding my true home
fuckingmockies ago
Don't you remember the absolute insane amount of spam like three years ago? I'd wake up every morning and have to downvoat the ENTIRE front page. It was all like India and Pakistani spam that I don't even think was in legible English.
0fsgivin ago
No i don't... I was here 3 years ago. Your account is 1.3 years old.
VoatsNewfag ago
How old is that 10 comment limit rule?
How many comment's do you need per day to make your case known?
With an alt it's 20. Make it two and it's 30.
In those comments you can write whatever you want. Jews are great. Some women marry ugly homeless men (that's my most downvoted comment in an incel thread).
If you don't spam and provide sources or original arguments that's probably enough comments to fill an evening - at least.
Meanwhile it cuts down on spam (which makes original content less visible!)
NymphantTree ago
If you actually get into arguments/fights or go to multiple subverses, then you could use up your comments quickly depending on how active you are and how active Voat is.
fuckingmockies ago
Shit, I normally don't let my accounts get this old. Time for a change, soon. I used to be /u/NoMoreMrNiceGoy, /u/GetWithThePogrom, and others.
I first came when they banned CoonTown.
MrPim ago
Go to a party. Be an obnoxious asshole. Be surprised when you're social pariah.
NiggerVirus spams All w retarded obnoxious bullshit, does it on purpose and then bitches that the community is mean. Fuck off w that bullshit.
0fsgivin ago
Why afraid he will say something that makes you look stupid? Like comparing political discourse to a fucking high school party?
MrPim ago
Further, Voat Inc isn't banning him. The community at large dislikes how he behaves. This is in no way comparable to the Twitter and FB bans. You fail.
MrPim ago
Yeah threads like I'm Pooping are some serious political discourse. Look out Karl Marx. He contributes nothing of value. Pick a different venue to compare it to. I was picturing an adult dinner party. Pick a different place, your local restaurant or bar, the library, a meeting of your book club,anywhere a group has gathered. There are rules and when you break them you may find yourself not welcome.
The only retards here are you and NiggerVirus.
Narow_Foe_Minsk ago
but it isn't. You're still allowed to post and comment. Imagine you're the mod of a voice chatroom. The only rules of the chatroom is no censorship, no spam, and no illegal shit (cp). Everything goes fine, until one day this asshat starts coming in the chatroom. He routinely talks over everyone else, starts petty fights, and spouts just utter garbage. He's ruining the chatroom, and people are starting to become frustrated and thinking of leaving. You want to remove him, but he's a conniving little fuck and has made sure to not break any of the rules, so if you ban him for being the fuckwad he is, he can prattle on about "muh free speech". What do you do?
I know what I would do. Mute his ass every time he starts mouthing off until he gets the fucking point, and stops acting like a fucking nigger.
NymphantTree ago
"spouts just utter garbage" "routinely talks over everyone "
It sounds like spam, which one of the rules is no spam.
Don't forget the rule of no unexpected ear rape, as that could actually physically hurt/damage ears sometimes I assume if the conditions are right.
Camulos ago
Well said
NymphantTree ago
Yeah the 10 comments a day which limits (Not extinguishes) but limits your potential of speech, along with making it so you can't make posts, which also limits speech, means the group can bully you into having little speech until you "wise" up and blindly join their side so you can get a positive karma.
That just rubs me as a form of subtle subconscious censorship as the community is forcing me to change my viewpoint, not by good arguments, but just downvote spam because I dared to think differently.
VoatsNewfag ago
How many comments per day do you need to make your case known?
If you make original arguments and provide sources, how long would it take you to write 10 Comments? What about 20 or 30 if you make alts?
If you aren't spamming or posting off-topic 20 to 30 comments should take you an evening or more.
Yeah it does slightly limit your speech but spam bots would do worse by drowning your voice in an ocean of spam.
Can you give an example of when you had felt forced to change your viewpoint?
NymphantTree ago
I mean you could look at my history and see that I asked for proof that the holocaust wasn't real, and instead of providing sources, this one guy just started cussing me out and eventually telling me to leave.
Of course since he came to me all hostile, I responded back hostile, but at the very start I wasn't hostile. But since he was part of the community, I got rekt when he started the hostility.
Besides that, look at 0fsgivin where he said "That is effectively the hive mind banning someone." and now his comment has lots of downvotes. I mean, he isn't spamming, he didn't show much or any hostility I can see, even talked about some of the history of voat, and gave his opinion (Not even calling anyone out it seems). Yet he got downvoted hard, so oof.
VoatsNewfag ago
I think you are leaving important bits out here.
When he asked you to fuck off, he quoted you stating that you "don't care too much" and are too lazy to read. He ended his post with stating "Find a way to give a fuck".
People don't like it if you ask them to do something and then tell them you don't give a fuck about what it is you expect them to do. Researching, even if you have knowledge on where to search, takes some time and effort. If you don't value the time and effort of others, of course they won't do it and get hostile at your entitled attitude. Would you really act differently? I would find that hard to believe, given that you described yourself as lazy and not caring.
As of right now it's at -3 downvotes.
If you manage to make just 1-2 halfway decent or funny comments that's easily offset. If you don't want to put in the effort you will still have at least 10 comments were you can be as offensive as you want.
Yes it's restricting you and ideally downvotes would be reserved for spam. But it's hardly censorship.
People here dislike dishonesty. If someone can complain about being banned, at the place where they are supposedly banned from (!), they are not banned.
xiego ago
You could make your own subverse and post whatever you want and maybe try to recruit people who feel the same way you do.
xenoPsychologist ago
feelings are worthless. only truth and knowledge matter in that conceptual arena.
HeavyBrain ago
I think roughing it for a while is worth it do later not deal with bots and shitty paid trolls.
While yes it does force you to join the criclejerk for a while it also makes sure you want genuinely in and shape the community (in whatevery way) not just piss on the floor.
Also the downvote button was never meant as a I disagree button and in the erly days it worked, as voat grew shit got loast in translation.
For all I know you only downvote bots, trolls and Aged.
Thisismyvoatusername ago
I don’t think it is even necessary to join the circlejerk. You just need to not be a troll for a period of time and stick to making reasonable comments in normal subs until you have the points.
I miss the old days when use of the downvote was almost unseen (hell, even upvotes were rare and needed to really be earned for good content). Too many people from banned reddit subs came here with their reddit behaviors still intact.
xenoPsychologist ago
i definitely know you dont have to agree, simply dont be hostile. but the shekelwhores cant handle that, they need their shekels now.
Thissandwich ago
How long before he deletes the account?
TestForScience ago
I was debating tagging him in this post, asking that exact question, but he said himself he'd just make another account to subvert the ban, soo....
0fsgivin ago
Well, why don't you. Perfect chance for you to be worthless cunt and fuck with someone who may not even be able to respond. /v/niggerguy
xenoPsychologist ago
thats not a person, its an obvious shekelwhore. they arent here to be legitimate users. theyre here to jew us and nothing else. they arent people.
skittlesforhair ago
Found the niggerfaggot.
TestForScience ago
See, that right there is a good defense against the bullshit 'hivemind' argument.
I'm not going to bother going through your comment history because... well, fuck that.
But I'm going to assume this isn't the first thing you've ever shit on the President.
Your stats, (Member for 3.8 years. SCP: 1.7k(+1.9k|-165) CCP: 11.2k(+16.3k|-5k)
The reason that the 'hivemind' of evil Trump supporters haven't 'silenced' you into a 10 post a day limit is because you post actual content, make agreeable points, and otherwise contribute.
The nigger in question just openly stated that he just intends to fuck with people and will make several accounts to do so.
He's seriously here JUST to be a bitch.