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18650bunny ago

Punishment for spreading decease

think that should be disease.

Would it not be prudent to offer banishment to corrupt officials as an alternative to execution?

7e62ce85 ago

think that should be disease.

Yes.. I will fix it.

Would it not be prudent to offer banishment to corrupt officials as an alternative to execution?

It is not an official punishment, but more a result of a civil war that should only happen if the nation has more or less completely failed.

Similar to the situation the US is currently in with Hillary where every time someone investigates her they mysteriously die and no one in general cares what the constitution says.

18650bunny ago

I understand, that seems fair. I can't see starting a country endearing itself to the current occupiers much. israel tried that and are hated almost universally for it. still, zimbabwe is crying out for white farmers at the moment due to the famine, but few are brave enough to stay without military protection. you could come to an arrangement with the government.

7e62ce85 ago

That is actually an excellent idea.

What we can do will depend a lot on numbers. I will be hesitant to touch Africa without enough firepower to stay safe. The problem is that even with a deal they would likely change their minds and then we would be shit out of luck.

I will however be investigating land purchasing options during the fall.

The benefit to starting as an online movement is that we can scale our numbers and as soon as an opportunity - whatever it is - becomes available we can strike in coordinated fashion thanks to the council.

I can't see starting a country endearing itself to the current occupiers much.

We would either peacefully purchase remote wilderness or restore peace to a region where the old nation collapsed. Think Venezuela.

18650bunny ago

I think that power is relative. what I mean is that in the west we are limited by corporations interests and by nato and various international treaties on human rights and a harmonised legal system. That has caused the uncontrollable situation we are in. in africa, while it is violent, there is a freedom to negotiate and to solve judicial problems locally to the benefit of the people. I would be shy to purchase tracts of land beyond that large enough for farm buildings and houses, as that would invite jealous hatred from the indigenous peoples. I am a farmer myself. Some of the best respected contractors and farmers have no more than 3 acres, the rest is rented.

7e62ce85 ago

I would be shy to purchase tracts of land beyond that large enough for farm buildings and houses, as that would invite jealous hatred from the indigenous peoples.

That won't work for us. No point leaving the west and starting over just to be put under a new set of bs rules.

We must be able to defend ourselves to an extreme degree or buy uncontested land.

I am a farmer myself.

That's great, we will need all sorts of people - especially practical ones such as farmers.

Are you in Africa now?

18650bunny ago

no, the republic of ireland. you mentioned ireland in one of the writings as an example of something autonomous? was it one of the islands off the west you meant? the isle of man would be something like that but i am not aware of a separate entity within the republic.

7e62ce85 ago

I can't find it now, but I just seem to remember an image of an Irish town with a sign saying outsiders or police or something were not welcome.

The closest I could find right now was this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregation_in_Northern_Ireland

Basically during the Troubles people split up into separate communities due to political differences.

18650bunny ago

That's true but that wasn't legal segregation, it was done privately and voluntarily. Is there a way to look at my old pm in voat? whenever i click on the buttons nothing is shown.

7e62ce85 ago

Click the letter icon then "Sent" tab.

That's true but that wasn't legal segregation, it was done privately and voluntarily.

Right and that is exactly the idea behind one possible phase 2 strategy. To make an unofficial country/community inside an existing one.