SCP and CCP no longer play any role in your ability do submit links/start discussions or vote. You can now downvote as soon as you create an account. Please note that you can only vote once from a single IP address (voting IP addresses are stored encrypted and we have no way to reverse this encryption). We are still tweaking this so please report if you notice anything unusual about voting.
Edit: The biggest reason for this change is that I noticed how multiple subverses had "please upvote me" threads where their members were able to gain 300+ CCP in matter of minutes. At the same time, regular users would need weeks or even months to reach this level. That essentially broke the old system and we need something new. Perhaps requiring new accounts to create 100 comments in 100 different subs before being able to vote 100 times? If you have an idea, please feel free to share it, I'm all ears.
Edit 2: Here is an example of the problem I am trying to tackle:
- a large corporation which has hundreds or thousands of employees, comes over to Voat and pushes their advertising links to the frontpage because upvotes are not restricted for new accounts as much as downvotes
- at the same time, majority of Voat users today does not have the ability to downvote or has restricted downvotes
Edit 3: This is now reverted to the way it was. I need to think this through.
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EIMR ago
I don't like this. This stopped new groups from brigading and taught that downvoting is important, not to be used indiscriminately as a disagree button. I don't see anything good coming from this.
EDIT: @Atko , what will happen with subverses that decide to continue having the CCP Requirement? Will they still be out of v/All?
12_Years_A_Toucan ago
They are working on a better system https://voat.co/v/voatdev/comments/413243
eneerg ago
people are so fucking stupid. this is simple. just create an upvoat button and get rid of the downvoat button. it will help people focus on what they WANT instead of making them focus on what they don't want. complaining is always easier than doing something about it. an upvoat says you are shaping voat to become what you want it to become. a downvoat merely means that you're complaining about something that bothers you. but if that bothersome thing is removed, you STILL have nothing if you don't say what you actually WANT.
plus we all know the brigading has started with the downvoat button. we see it all the time on reddit. and we act like it won't happen on here. it's fucking idiocy. if you want to give people a downvoat button, make them EARN IT by contributing heavily to the site. and limit the amount of downvoats they get to ONE per day.
erowidtrance ago
I'd just get rid of them entirely. At least for comments the downsides of downvoting far outweigh the positives.
eneerg ago
i agree
NinjaPoolboy ago
So is the upvoat button for agreements? ..because you know it is!