SCP and CCP no longer play any role in your ability do submit links/start discussions or vote. You can now downvote as soon as you create an account. Please note that you can only vote once from a single IP address (voting IP addresses are stored encrypted and we have no way to reverse this encryption). We are still tweaking this so please report if you notice anything unusual about voting.
Edit: The biggest reason for this change is that I noticed how multiple subverses had "please upvote me" threads where their members were able to gain 300+ CCP in matter of minutes. At the same time, regular users would need weeks or even months to reach this level. That essentially broke the old system and we need something new. Perhaps requiring new accounts to create 100 comments in 100 different subs before being able to vote 100 times? If you have an idea, please feel free to share it, I'm all ears.
Edit 2: Here is an example of the problem I am trying to tackle:
- a large corporation which has hundreds or thousands of employees, comes over to Voat and pushes their advertising links to the frontpage because upvotes are not restricted for new accounts as much as downvotes
- at the same time, majority of Voat users today does not have the ability to downvote or has restricted downvotes
Edit 3: This is now reverted to the way it was. I need to think this through.
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Karlsson ago
Why not just let a downvoat cost one (or two - or ten) upvoats? Maybe even let upvoats cost one (or two - or ten) upvoats. That gives value to voats and people will voat more responsibly.
I have 153 CCP. If downvoats cost 10 CCP I can downvoat 15 times and then they are gone. If I want to downvoat more I have to earn new upvoats.
Atko ago
Downvotes are not the only problem - upvotes are equally important.
bubblesort ago
Could you weight people's up and down voats based on how much CCP and SCP they have? Like, if you have 500 CCP then when you up or down voat a comment, that voat is worth twice as much as somebody with 0 CCP? If you have 500 SCP then your submissions might be worth twice as much as somebody with 0 CCP? Those numbers might need tinkering, but maybe it's a start?
Whatever you do, please tell us exactly how the voat system works somewhere on the FAQ, and keep it updated. There was a lot of confusion under the old system regarding how many up and down voats you got for different point levels. Nobody really understood how the math worked.
Karlsson ago