SCP and CCP no longer play any role in your ability do submit links/start discussions or vote. You can now downvote as soon as you create an account. Please note that you can only vote once from a single IP address (voting IP addresses are stored encrypted and we have no way to reverse this encryption). We are still tweaking this so please report if you notice anything unusual about voting.
Edit: The biggest reason for this change is that I noticed how multiple subverses had "please upvote me" threads where their members were able to gain 300+ CCP in matter of minutes. At the same time, regular users would need weeks or even months to reach this level. That essentially broke the old system and we need something new. Perhaps requiring new accounts to create 100 comments in 100 different subs before being able to vote 100 times? If you have an idea, please feel free to share it, I'm all ears.
Edit 2: Here is an example of the problem I am trying to tackle:
- a large corporation which has hundreds or thousands of employees, comes over to Voat and pushes their advertising links to the frontpage because upvotes are not restricted for new accounts as much as downvotes
- at the same time, majority of Voat users today does not have the ability to downvote or has restricted downvotes
Edit 3: This is now reverted to the way it was. I need to think this through.
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EIMR ago
I don't like this. This stopped new groups from brigading and taught that downvoting is important, not to be used indiscriminately as a disagree button. I don't see anything good coming from this.
EDIT: @Atko , what will happen with subverses that decide to continue having the CCP Requirement? Will they still be out of v/All?
12_Years_A_Toucan ago
They are working on a better system https://voat.co/v/voatdev/comments/413243
CowWithBeef ago
I would prefer if the new system was already in place before abandoning the old system. At least I got the joy of earning my first downvote.
Subtenko ago
I have yet to downvoat anyone. Theres been some comments I dont like, or that wernt as thought out... Just didnt care that much.
CowWithBeef ago
It took me a few days to find one. Sometimes I find a great post deeper in a thread and downvote some of the inferior comments above it to help the great comment rise. On reddit this was usually a joke/pun. I'm curious if anyone thinks this is unethical.
Subtenko ago
Oh its about comment rise too, I didnt think of that rly
sir_edge ago
Well yeah, downvoting used to cause you to lose your ability to downvote. Doing this for an innocuous comment just cause you think another is better is kind of abuse.