SCP and CCP no longer play any role in your ability do submit links/start discussions or vote. You can now downvote as soon as you create an account. Please note that you can only vote once from a single IP address (voting IP addresses are stored encrypted and we have no way to reverse this encryption). We are still tweaking this so please report if you notice anything unusual about voting.
Edit: The biggest reason for this change is that I noticed how multiple subverses had "please upvote me" threads where their members were able to gain 300+ CCP in matter of minutes. At the same time, regular users would need weeks or even months to reach this level. That essentially broke the old system and we need something new. Perhaps requiring new accounts to create 100 comments in 100 different subs before being able to vote 100 times? If you have an idea, please feel free to share it, I'm all ears.
Edit 2: Here is an example of the problem I am trying to tackle:
- a large corporation which has hundreds or thousands of employees, comes over to Voat and pushes their advertising links to the frontpage because upvotes are not restricted for new accounts as much as downvotes
- at the same time, majority of Voat users today does not have the ability to downvote or has restricted downvotes
Edit 3: This is now reverted to the way it was. I need to think this through.
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EIMR ago
I don't like this. This stopped new groups from brigading and taught that downvoting is important, not to be used indiscriminately as a disagree button. I don't see anything good coming from this.
EDIT: @Atko , what will happen with subverses that decide to continue having the CCP Requirement? Will they still be out of v/All?
Sosacms ago
Ya, I would rather expanding the voting restrictions. You can't upvoat until you've earned 10 points in that subverse and you can't downvoat until you have 20 points in that subverse. It doesn't need to be anything major but it will encourage individuals to join and contribute before they can silence and take over the conversation. Plus, voat brigades can't happen if they don't have any points in that subverse.
I'm a /all lurker that bounces around randomly, my puns and irrelevant points should not give me the same voating power as the actual members of that subverse, until I've earned it and shown I am a good fit with their community. I treat subverses like homes, it's very rude to just walk in, take over the conversation, tell others to shut up in their own home, and try changing the direction of that community. If I can't make the points, than obviously that subverse isn't for me and I should find/start a different one.
NateThomas1979 ago
I like this.
Sosacms ago
I can't really think any other way of preventing one group from loading themselves up with points to use against other subverses. I'm open to more ideas though.
NateThomas1979 ago
I think we're thinking differently. I just posted a big thread post trying to collect all the different ideas so far. In my mind, you would only be able to upvote/downvote in a subverse that you have already been a part of. For example, I am a mod of /v/Colts. If I wanted to go upvote or downvote something in /v/Patriots, I would have to spend time there first and gain points in their subverse first in order to be able to help shape their community.