SCP and CCP no longer play any role in your ability do submit links/start discussions or vote. You can now downvote as soon as you create an account. Please note that you can only vote once from a single IP address (voting IP addresses are stored encrypted and we have no way to reverse this encryption). We are still tweaking this so please report if you notice anything unusual about voting.
Edit: The biggest reason for this change is that I noticed how multiple subverses had "please upvote me" threads where their members were able to gain 300+ CCP in matter of minutes. At the same time, regular users would need weeks or even months to reach this level. That essentially broke the old system and we need something new. Perhaps requiring new accounts to create 100 comments in 100 different subs before being able to vote 100 times? If you have an idea, please feel free to share it, I'm all ears.
Edit 2: Here is an example of the problem I am trying to tackle:
- a large corporation which has hundreds or thousands of employees, comes over to Voat and pushes their advertising links to the frontpage because upvotes are not restricted for new accounts as much as downvotes
- at the same time, majority of Voat users today does not have the ability to downvote or has restricted downvotes
Edit 3: This is now reverted to the way it was. I need to think this through.
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EIMR ago
I don't like this. This stopped new groups from brigading and taught that downvoting is important, not to be used indiscriminately as a disagree button. I don't see anything good coming from this.
EDIT: @Atko , what will happen with subverses that decide to continue having the CCP Requirement? Will they still be out of v/All?
Atko ago
Multiple subverses had "please upvote me" threads where their members were able to gain 300+ CCP in matter of hours. At the same time, regular users would need MONTHS to reach this level. Don't you see a problem with that?
All subs with minimum CCP requirement will not show up in /v/all. Homer explained it well here.
EIMR ago
I do see a problem with vote manipulation, however, nowadays obtaining CCP is extremely easy. My parent comment has like 130 points at the moment. And if that is 100 CCP is too much, the quantity could be reduced to 50.
And yes, I've read Homer's after my edit and I understand. My main concern is how to discover new subs with restrictions, as I(and possibly many) discover new subs by seeing their posts on All.
Atko ago
We could implement a new /v/all tab for subverses which have minimum CCP requirements and make the discovery easier. I think you're onto something here :)
EIMR ago
Yep, a TrueAll would be interesting. It would be perfect if all subverses were there, even the anonymized.
Atko ago
Agreed.