We're saying goodbye to global restrictions based on SCP and CCP (announcements)

submitted ago by Atko

SCP and CCP no longer play any role in your ability do submit links/start discussions or vote. You can now downvote as soon as you create an account. Please note that you can only vote once from a single IP address (voting IP addresses are stored encrypted and we have no way to reverse this encryption). We are still tweaking this so please report if you notice anything unusual about voting.

Edit: The biggest reason for this change is that I noticed how multiple subverses had "please upvote me" threads where their members were able to gain 300+ CCP in matter of minutes. At the same time, regular users would need weeks or even months to reach this level. That essentially broke the old system and we need something new. Perhaps requiring new accounts to create 100 comments in 100 different subs before being able to vote 100 times? If you have an idea, please feel free to share it, I'm all ears.

Edit 2: Here is an example of the problem I am trying to tackle:

  • a large corporation which has hundreds or thousands of employees, comes over to Voat and pushes their advertising links to the frontpage because upvotes are not restricted for new accounts as much as downvotes
  • at the same time, majority of Voat users today does not have the ability to downvote or has restricted downvotes

Edit 3: This is now reverted to the way it was. I need to think this through.

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Atko ago

Multiple subverses had "please upvote me" threads where their members were able to gain 300+ CCP in matter of hours. At the same time, regular users would need MONTHS to reach this level. Don't you see the problem?

DanielTaylor ago

Cap the amount of CCP new users can get in a single day. They still see the 300+ number but the system only recognizes 10, for example. The next day the user might get 200+ CCP, but the system would only recognize 10 additional CCP.

That way you limit how fast a new user's privileges can grow.

The opposite could be inverse as well. If a user is stuck more than x months with activity but small positive CCP growth during that time, you could give them some privileges so that they don't fall behind.

peacegnome ago

they should use something like a moving log average (if it were base10 then a comment/post total of 10 for the time block would count as 1, 100 would be 2, etc.) and then your total would act like a sum of moving averages. This would reward people for having consistent participation with good content. This is better than capping it, but would serve a similar desire.

Brizzl ago

Here's a bad analogy for what I feel like just happend:

You built a fence to keep animals out of your yard. A racoon figured out how to dig under the fence, so you just decided to just tear down the whole fence.

The system isnt perfect, and probably never will be, but I feel like removing it entirely just because there is a loophole is a very rash decision.