The reason given was "Under the Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used to send or receive payments for certain sexually oriented materials or services or for items that could be considered obscene". This is wrong/false on so many levels. We used PayPal only as a means to receive voluntary donations from people who wanted to support further development of Voat and to help pay for our hosting fees. This is beyond crazy.
According to PayPal User Agreement, our funds can be kept by PayPal for 180 days. I requested further clarification from PayPal, but I would like to advise everyone who planned to donate to Voat - to NOT do so via PayPal.
Honestly, I don't know what I expected when I trusted PayPal with our donation money. I apologize to everyone who donated to us through PayPal and I will badge everyone who did so even if the funds are never released by PayPal.
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kurfu ago
Did you really expect any less from PayPal? Especially with the active ongoing sabotage attempts coming from the Reddit pricks?
/rhetorical questions, both.
DaveyCakes ago
Well they did literally say they should do exactly this next. I don't even. Leaving was their preferred option, and now we've done it and gone to a better site they won't accept that?
What about safe spaces and all that jazz?
Rommel79 ago
They don't want us to leave, they want us to conform.
I'm wondering how long it is until admins/mods threaten purges for anyone who visits here.
AlderaanDuran ago
Who is "they"? I feel like some of you think far too highly of yourselves or the drama that went down. To Reddit staff, it was nothing more than a nuisance they had to deal with for a few days. It was a bigger problem for the mods of subreddits that got flooded with FPH stuff, and they aren't Reddit employees. The site went through similar shitstorm when /r/jailbait and /r/creepshots were banned. Nothing came of it. They didn't form an internet hit squad to go after users who went to other sites, etc.
Now could some group of individual Reddit users be tipping off PayPal and the others about Voat having some questionable content to try to get their PayPal banned? Yeah, that's entirely possible. But to think it's "Reddit the company" or "the admins" doing it is just silly and paranoid, and thinking far too highly of yourselves. But to be fair, the FPH people were also doing the same thing and messaging all of Reddit's advertisers and trying to get them to drop Reddit as a place they advertise. There were numerous threads about email campaigns doing exactly that. So I'd say if there was an opposite Reddit group of people doing that to Voat out of spite, it's kind of collateral damage. PayPal sucks and no one should use it in the first place. It sucks that they froze the assets though for Voat.
I just get really tired of this whole "They", and "we're at war", and "they want us to conform" stuff. In reality, Reddit, the company, doesn't give a fuck about you or the people who left. But again, there may have been some smaller group of individuals who are still trolling and fucking with Voat. But don't pretend this is some big over-reaching conspiracy to convert you to "SJWs" or something stupid like that.
edgelord ago
Yeah, because SRS doesn't even exist, right? How can you be this oblivious?
AlderaanDuran ago
Where did I say that or mention them? I even said...
That would be a group like SRS or other subreddits that would be inclined to troll Voat. I don't even understand your reaction to my comment when I didn't even say it was impossible for a group of users to be behind this. I just said it's unlikely it's Reddit the company itself. What am I oblivious to when I literally alluded to the same group that you just mentioned?
I didn't even mention SRS in my post or say they didn't exist, so your over reaction - and assumption - is coming out of nowhere.
edgelord ago
Even though SRS said that they were going to do exactly this before it even happened? Nice try.
AlderaanDuran ago
Nice try what? You're reading comprehension is terrible if you think I'm excusing their actions or covering for them or something.
I'm familiar with SRS and they are a likely culprit, but I don't spend time reading any of their subreddits or following their actions. So why would I know they said they were going to do exactly this? You say "nice try" like I'm supposed to be well read on everything SRS does? Sorry, no thanks. Not a fan of them so why would I spend time keeping track of their actions or reading their subreddit? If that's how you want to spend your time, though, feel free. But don't act like I'm defending them or trying to trick people here just because I don't waste my time reading about them.
Whether it was SRS or another group, my original comment still stands. You're just arguing with yourself at this point. I'm not saying it wasn't SRS, I just didn't specifically say it was SRS either. Because I don't spend as much time reading about them as you apparently do and don't know for sure.
edgelord ago
You should be specifically saying it was SRS because they directly said that this was what they were going to do. It is SRS, other entities may be involved, but we know that SRS is involved.
AlderaanDuran ago
Sorry, I'm not a recipient of the SRS newsletter and subscriber to their subreddits, so I didn't know that. So no, I shouldn't specifically be saying it was SRS when I didn't have that information.
You could have just said, "SRS specifically stated they were going to do this" and added to the conversation instead of just attacking me. That would have been a better way to go about things instead of just assuming everyone should know the same information you know. You know who else prefers attacking people instead of contributing and discussing things? SRS... Don't be like them.
edgelord ago
You don't have to subscribe to read the sub. Ignoring the source of the problems helps nobody but the problem themselves.
AlderaanDuran ago
But I would still have to read it. Again, I don't like SRS or give a shit what they do, so why would I waste my time reading their shit? I don't understand why you're talking down to me for not reading SRS. This conversation is so bizarre to me. You hate SRS, but are talking down to me for not reading their subreddit? Do you realize how stupid that is?
Funny you mention ignoring, because that's what you've done to every single one of my comments so far where I tried to explain myself. I'll just stop replying because it's pointless. Sorry I'm not an SRS expert and don't waste my life reading a subreddit of a group I don't like. I have better things to do with my time. Keep attacking instead of contributing, because it's exactly what SRS does. No wonder you love reading their subreddit.
Cheers,
edgelord ago
Then don't say that it's unlikely that it's SRS when you haven't seen them in action.
Their shit is the entire reason we are here, and not on Reddit.
If you were to go to war with Russia, don't you think it would be prudent to know Russian?
Oh, so this is all about you?
Then don't say that their not involved when you have no knowledge of their actions.
I guess that's why you talk about things you know nothing about.
You can compare me to them all you want, that doesn't change the fact that they are involved in this.
That's a strawman. I never said that I enjoyed reading it. Know your enemy.