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rwbj ago

@Atko

Ads on this site were never going to be a consistent source of revenue. People don't like seeing ads, and people who run ads are only going to do so when they see some visible returns from such. Like you mentioned charity is a short term thing. People might click on and buy some ads to support the site at first, but that novelty and the funding it provided will dissipate without returns in the future.

Instead of ads, add a simple message box that can be 'gamed' for money. For instance buying a fresh message in the textbox that lasts for a minimum of 'x' minutes/hours costs $y. The price to replace that message goes constantly down eventually making it $0 after some fair period of time, perhaps 24 hours. Now everybody is looking at the messages, not only because they'd probably be entertaining, but also to see if they can grab the free message spot. Somebody who wants to get in on top of everybody else can pay a nominal fee to do just that.

Or integrate some sort of post/thread bumps and visibility for currency, similar to Reddit Gold. They tried a bunch of random ideas to monetize the idea and that's one of the few that actually worked. Learn from their many failures and copy their few successes where it's not detrimental to the ideals of Voat. Reddit Gold actually helped on Reddit to bring some gems to life once they were buried or brigaded.

Basically make funding Voat FUN. Merchandise will likely have the same issues as the donations. The profit margins are tiny and you'll get a huge burst of initial support followed by a rapid decline down to a trickle where the opportunity cost involved in shipping everything out getting close to make the whole thing actually end up costing, rather than making, money!

Vailx ago

I like the idea of voat gold, but understand that it has serious opposition. The preferential flaring of posts in that manner, and the direct tie to money, really sets a lot of teeth gnashing. I'll point out that the current situation over on reddit- where their CEO edited posts in childish rage, leaving no trace, and then fessing up to it- ended up with his post fessing up to the editing with just a zillion Reddit Golds, and thousands and thousands of downvotes. The golds show that some people approved him (or hated the group he trolled, Trump supporters) enough to donate money to the site, and the site portrays that permanently, and on a dimension that is orthogonal to the normal upvote/downvote mechanic that normally represents their community standards. To me, that feels funny to look at.

Still, for less controversial things, it can be fun. I'm just saying, it's a move with a lot of consequences.

guinness2 ago

The preferential flaring of posts in that manner, and the direct tie to money, really sets a lot of teeth gnashing.

I propose those people with gnashing teeth come up with a better solution if they don't like Voat Gold.