I am not a big fan of corporate fluffy words. I think most of you are adults and should be treated as such, so, I’ll be straightforward with you: We have to start generating revenue if we are to keep Voat running, open, and free.
Your generous donations have helped keep Voat afloat (and at times brought tears in my eyes) for far too long (looking back, I can’t believe I purchased voat.co domain back in 2014), and both me and @PuttItOut have agreed that asking for donations is not something we want to keep doing; It just doesn’t feel right. Voat was originally a side-project and I think that Voat has turned into something pretty damn amazing. As of March 2016, Voat had a total of 309.960 registered user accounts, over 800.000 unique monthly visitors, 125.281.033 requests, transferred 913 GB of data/month, a total of 918.886 submissions, 9.784.388 submission votes, 4.724.905 comments and 13.574.029 comment votes.
Voat has been mentioned in Wired UK, Business Insider, Time, The Verge, Marketwatch, International Business Times, Ilta-Sanomat, Washington Post, Forbes, The Guardian, Vice Motherboard, Le Monde, The Independent, Venturebeat, Mashable, BBC, Coin Telegraph, The Christian Science Monitor, Fortune, Daily Dot, CNET, Engadget… We have had interview requests from Bloomberg TV, Swiss national TV, BBC and about 30 other, all of which we’ve declined because we had to work hard to bring Voat back online and keep it running. Running and maintaining Voat takes time, a lot of time.
We also received a ton of inquiries from investors, but for what it’s worth, we never accepted any offers as most investors simply didn’t share our vision.
So, what is our ultimate goal and the point of this announcement? We want to be able to work full time on Voat. We love Voat, we love doing what we do and we want to focus all of our energy on Voat. We’ve spent a lot of time writing a new Voat API which will eventually help replace all existing logic and open the door to 3rd party developers to create fully functional mobile applications as well as allow us to implement new & meaningful features. This effort will also help us bring the costs of hosting Voat down, way down, but we don’t think that it will be possible to go lower than 5k/month in operating costs in the near future. We think there is a lot of room for improvement and innovation (we have a bunch of really weird ideas) and we’d love dedicate our attention full time to Voat and this community.
To this end, we will start selling sidebar ad space. Our ad criteria are very strict. Ads cannot have animations, ads cannot embed 3rd party scripts. We will not track ad impressions and we won’t track clicks on the ads. We will offer 2 types of ads: site-wide default ads, and single subverse ads. Demand will dictate the pricing. For more information about advertising on Voat visit https://voat.co/advertize
As a courtesy to everyone who donated, we will allow you to turn-off ads in your user preferences (pending a software update), but of course you are always free to block our ads.
So, what do you guys think? Are we doing the right thing?
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middle_path ago
Okay, buddy. Glad to see how pragmatic you are.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
hey middle, let me break this in half for you:
ads are evil.
there isn't a more viable option that isn't evil unless atko can gather 5,000 bucks of subs a month for a year in advance; i mean to do that, like 8,700 members would have to pay 7 bucks for a year's subscription, o noes. i'd pay 10 bucks a year, that'll take 6,000 goats so like 18% of voat, if there are just 50,000 users, could support the rest's free use.
this is the state of things today on a much larger playing field than voat.
many have been working towards a replacement,
but so far, their working prototype is just as south park called it:
we become ads to each other
it still requires the initial washing and conditioning of the brain,
but that can be done with subconscious product and brand placement,
no need for overt conscious ads anymore...
middle_path ago
I agree with you to an extent, but voat need revenue right now. I am more than willing to pay for a monthly membership, I think most voaters are, but it would deter almost all new users.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
middle_path ago
It's really hard to say. Voat's user base tends to be very pro privacy and sometimes paranoid. Not sure how many users would even want to use their debit or credit cards online.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
yeah fuck that. prepaids
edit, also, where the fuck did the progress % bar go?! we did a whole month's worth of funding in a month, didn't we? just on donations...
fagnig ago
I saw that, i thought that meant voat was gonna be viable on donations...
Its surprising to see this thread now tbh
SaneGoatiSwear ago
i thought that as well...
hey @puttitout what happened to the monthly cost donation % bar? i believe many users feel that donations feel totally right (correct me if i'm wrong, goats!)
fagnig ago
Two t's in the name! If you edit it now i dont think it sends to inbox either.
@Puttitout (see context):
I agree, donations should remain an option.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
and i've been saying put it out the fire for a year,
and it's putt it out like golfing putt.
ha!
thank you!