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Shagoosty ago

As much as Voat hates ads this is the right move. Voat with an ad in the sidebar is better than no Voat at all.

And maybe give everyone an ad free version for like $7 a month or something.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

when i can simply block the ad for free?


"voat with an ad.. is better than no voat.."

is quote of the day for me, though, no matter how opposed i am to the very existence of advertising.

but let me ask you shagoosty: do you think it will stay one ad?

or will the ad-cancer grow, like it always does?

edit: that's neat, i posted this "1 microcentury ago", or 52.6 minutes yay!

immutablegecko ago

Even if it seems like the use of ads will always spread doesn't mean we shouldn't try to do something about it anyways. It's not a futile effort. Money speaks, but we can speak too.

TH3_1D10T ago

Would you donate your own money to voat, or some viewing space?

Shagoosty ago

What's your suggestion on how to keep this site free?

SaneGoatiSwear ago

By_The_Water ago

I think you're missing the "we want to do this full time."

It would need to be a bit higher than 5k a month to keep a roof over atko and Puttputt's heads. 5k is just server costs.

RedditCEOEllenPao ago

That seems like an awfully entitled attitude.

sdgsdgsdgsg ago

In what fucking universe? Moron.

RedditCEOEllenPao ago

"I'm going to use Voat and expect other to pay for it." Yeah, not entitled in the least bit.

DammitMoonMoon ago

There are an awfully lot of entitled people here. So, yeah.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

atko said there's gonna be ability to simply turn off ads...

what original commenter said struck me as quite true, from the opposite side of the argument from me.

but i wanted his opinion on what he thinks this means for the future of voat....

yes, totally entitled attitude..

RedditCEOEllenPao ago

What you're basically saying, at least how I'm interpreting it is that all of this content and functionality should come without any form of advertisement.

Tell me, what are the other options? Pay for membership? Continue begging for donations and barely limping by? Should Atko and PuttItOut just pay for Voat out of pocket until it bankrupts them and we lose Voat altogether?

SaneGoatiSwear ago

well, with tens of thousands of users,

only a small percent would have to subscribe, for say 7 bucks for a year.

with 8,700 members doing that, they'll have 5k a month.

with the proper scale of users, a small percent of them willing to subscribe to support and maybe get a badge or something would be able to support the whole thing.

i say leave all the freely participating options on the table, such as donations, subscribership...

do you have any ideas?

Bing11 ago

Just a note: I think the 5k is for server costs alone. If Atko and PuttItOut want to work full time, I expect they'll need salaries, too. Though I may have misunderstood.

Honestly, the fact that they didn't jump at investors is a major sign of their integrity. The question is whether the community will rise in support of them or not.

RedditCEOEllenPao ago

I take it you're not familiar with the Bystander Effect?

"Oh, I don't have to pay. Someone else will surely pay!"

SaneGoatiSwear ago

RedditCEOEllenPao ago

Ah, to be young and naive again.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

ah, to be old and cynical at last.

TremorAcePV ago

"Everything old is new again!" - Peter Allen