Section 230, Voat's shutdown and the future of internet free speech.

Section 230, Voat's shutdown and the future of internet free speech. (Voat)

submitted 3.3 years ago by NorthSeaPagan

I suspect that Voat is being shut down to protect the admins and moderators from legal action if (and really when) Section 230 is revoked, Section 230 gives legal immunity to site admins for posts their users make (death threats, calls to violence, doxxing, child porn, etc.) and if Section 230 was revoked (and it most likely will be) this legal immunity which gives sites like Voat, Stormfront, 4chan and Kiwifarms and other "controversial" sites which are either White Nationalist in "tone" and/or allow for freedom of speech the ability to exist would go away. I suspect the site admins and moderators were worried about facing possible legal consequences for Voat users posts/comments and especially our (possible) actions, if any one of us were to "do a terror" the site's admins could very well face serious legal issues and be sued, or worse, imprisoned. Other free speech sites, including Kiwifarms have already stated that they will shut down if Section 230 is removed due to legal issues the site would face. I worry that it won't matter if we find a new site to migrate too if Section 230 is revoked because it's very likely that site would start facing legal issues as soon as it grew and it's presence became known as well. The internet was "interesting" while it lasted and some sites like Voat have been a lot of fun, but it seems the age of internet freedom of speech is coming to a close and that only sites which support the MSM's positions, big tech sites (Amazon, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, etc.), controlled opposition sites (although those will probably be phased out eventually too) and porn sites will be left.

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SearchVoatBot 3.3 years ago

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RiverWind 3.3 years ago

It is excellent!

A client is the way forward. http is being killed by Big Data and the government just loves http as it is centralised and easy to control. If you still want http, try:

https://notabug.io
https://searchvoat.co

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RiverWind 3.3 years ago

Aether doesn't "download stuff", it only updates the index of what text has been posted on the Aether blockchain. There is a good discussion here:

https://getaether.net/docs/faq/how_private_is_aether/

"How does privacy in Aether work?

The privacy that Aether offers is statistical: when you post something, after it leaves your computer, it floods the network, everyone gets a copy of it from somebody that’s not necessarily you. As a result, no one knows which node posted it first. So posts have no IP addresses associated with them.

This means two things. First, the more people Aether has, the more private it becomes. The second is, if someone really wanted to find you, they would insert a lot of dummy nodes into the network, and start to listen. Some of those nodes would receive content earlier than others. With enough nodes and enough time listening, they can close in on the node that has posted it, bit by bit, and then end up in front of your house.6

Aether could make it so that this is much less likely. (That said, even Tor has a form of this problem.) However, this would make the user experience worse (in terms of latency, development velocity, or user-facing complexity), and it would not improve the privacy of the average user, only those that fall into the edge cases.

This feature might eventually come, in the form of onion routing. However, this is not a priority, since it does not improve the total ‘deal’ the average user gets."

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Glory_Beckons 3.3 years ago

B-but surely Trumpenstein would never use that against us, fellow Patriot. Trust the plan! MIGAGIGAWIGA!

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bobdole9 3.3 years ago

Help a retard. I thought 230 was "publisher vs. platform"...Twitter and YouTube making commentary on user's posts would reclassify them from a platform to a publisher.

Putt doesn't do anything in reguards to editing posts, having comments about the content other than NSFW and collapsed comments if its downvoated. I don't see how Voat could be considered a publisher in any way compared to the commentary Twitter adds.

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NorthSeaPagan 3.3 years ago

https://www.eff.org/issues/cda230

https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/230

Section 230 gives "bloggers" (i.e. web hosts, a.k.a. Atko, Puttitout, Null, etc.) legal immunity for any content that is posted to their sites which violates federal law and any comments/posts made to their sites by users that violate federal law. If Section 230 is removed then sites like Voat, Kiwifarms, Stormfront, etc. will all be liable to legal prosecution if one of their users breaks federal laws. So if Section 230 is repealed and someone on one of these sites decides to "do a terror" the site admins could end up facing charges (more or less).

ZOGnold Trump tried to tell people that "repealing Section 230 will hurt big tech" but, it was a flat our lie, repealing Section 230 would basically give the power to censor and control the internet to the courts which, as we have already seen, will always side with big tech and always attack sites like Voat.

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hang_em_high 3.3 years ago

How can you decentralize or offshore it to where laws don't mean jack shit? That's got to be the future right?

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RiverWind 3.3 years ago

Aether is the solution:
https://getaether.net

Aether is an index and doesn't host the images, it only provides links. You have the option to enable images to be shown and you can whitelist particular domains if you like. Aether is a protocol that is difficult to censor and it supports free speech.

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derram 3.3 years ago

https://invidio.us/watch?v=YaQrfnPTje4&t :

Mad at the Internet (December 4th, 2020) - YouTube

This has been an automated message.

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Humansized 3.3 years ago

maybe a user who isnt a pedophile should make threads like this. otherwise if just reeks of "as long as s230 exists im going to keep shitting up websites with my pedo antics"

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NorthSeaPagan 3.3 years ago

Maybe I don't give a fuck what you think faggot, no one else made the thread so I did, go get raped to death by niggers.

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Humansized 3.3 years ago

dont fuck kids.

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NorthSeaPagan 3.3 years ago

Lolis need White dick (and only White dick).

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Humansized 3.3 years ago

jews arent white. stop shitting up the earth with your presence.

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NorthSeaPagan 3.3 years ago

Exactly, it just gives the power to control/censor the internet to the courts/government which will obviously (as shown by their treatment of us over the past few years) censor and take legal action against us while giving a free pass to the MSM, big tech and porn.

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the_old_ones 3.3 years ago

fuck off pedo

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NorthSeaPagan 3.3 years ago

Go get raped to death by niggers faggot

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