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MrPim ago

I can't allow manipulation, in any way. If the votes aren't true, I can't put my name on it.

And personally my problem is that I was accused of vote manipulation when in my opinion that just is not true. I do not use alts, I do not engage in organized brigades, I do not Voat from a users comment page. My voating is done as a single user in the forums and I don't use alt accts to increase my numbers. If I have a hard on for a particular user and I DV the shit out of them that isn't vote manipulation. If I DV every single thing Aged posts that isn't manipulation, I just hate pedos. I also UV almost everything from @Empress and a lot from TWs, am I manipulating that? If so, what are the thresholds for this activity?

The accusation of Voat manipulation is taken seriously here and people automatically jump to AltFarmer and I am not that. My activity logs are welcome to be published.

Dortex ago

If I have a hard on for a particular user and I DV the shit out of them that isn't vote manipulation. If I DV every single thing Aged posts that isn't manipulation

I'd definitely call that something bad. But "Manipulation" implies this is some effort to fix his internet points.

MrPim ago

Why is it bad? I do not want his content here. I am powerless to remove it completely. So I push it incrementally down the page. Why is it ok for me to UV Empress but not ok to DV Aged? Does one give you a warm and fuzzy feeling of inclusion and diversity?

virge ago

Why is it bad? I do not want his content here. I am powerless to remove it completely. So I push it incrementally down the page. Why is it ok for me to UV Empress but not ok to DV Aged? Does one give you a warm and fuzzy feeling of inclusion and diversity?

The difference is nuanced, but it's an easy line to understand:

  • **You absolutely can look at each post you see by Aged and downvoat it, if you are so inclined.
  • **You cannot get bored once or twice a week (or, whatever, I'm illustrating for the sake of expedience) and click on Aged's user profile, systematically finding each of his recent posts at every place he posts them including the ones you would never have seen because you do not participate in the community, and then proceed to downvoat all of those in an intentional assault on his whole posting experience.

Seems pretty simple to me.

Apexbreed ago

My concern here, is that there is no system which can determine if one comes accross a user's posts organically (that I know of or have been told about) so whatever a brigading accusation is based off of is probably based on a count. Now why not institute a DV limit instead of a threshold that get one banned or warned?