In 4chan-ish speak (or whatever)
Be me
Working. Look at clock, damn gotta run
Get up, about to leave, forgot I have to run vote manipulation bans
It's fine, they are ready to run, won't take long
Get first batch setup, double check it, looks good, execute the code
Get second batch setup, double check it, wait, a parameter is off
Think to myself, hmmmm, what was that parameter set to in the first batch?
Go look at the first batch again, parameter is wrong, interesting.
I wonder what that did.
Go look, yeah, banned a bunch of people I shouldn't have.
I'm going to be so late now.
No code to unban people, have to write it real quick.
15 minutes later, ready to go, execute code, great, everyone was unbanned. Feel like superman.
Finish rest of bans
Leave 45 minutes after I should have
Sometime later, check Voat on phone, make sure it's not down (you know, we have a thing with that).
Have 20 triilion unread messages. Oh no. What now.
Voat is going full rage goat about bans.
Try to answer as many messages as possible. It's a warzone. Usually is after every round though, so expected
Check Voat again later, saw ping in a random submission
It said a long time goat was banned. That's weird.
Started thinking how did that goat get banned?
Why would they be farming? They can't be downvoting can they?
Recall that Dan guy got banned on Reddit for up farming. Definitely possible.
Maybe power users are into that kind of thing?
Think to myself, Voat is weird.
Sometime later, still curious, log on computer, bring up ban data
Wait a second, that goat was in batch 1
I'll fix that. Fixed.
Look over it once again, find two more
Fix them.
Check a few users who've messaged. They still got served the ban hammer. Lol a little
Think we are good now.
Still thinking about what the goats said in the warzone thread
One user said we should have an appeal process
Process we use now is old as hell
Coded to kill farms with no mercy
Written for survival during the sanegoat days
That was years ago. Reminisce what is was like for a minute. Damn I'm getting old.
Yeah, maybe we should update this
So, that was how the bans went down from my side. Thought it was entertaining enough to break the ice for what follows:
I can't allow manipulation, in any way. If the votes aren't true, I can't put my name on it. Manipulation of votes was why I left Reddit in the first place. I take it seriously. I also need to define what we look for without giving away our playbook (I have to think about this a bit).
I'll double check vote manipulation bans, that is totally reasonable. I hate banning people for manipulation, so if a ban wasn't right, I'll fix it.
Conclusion:
We are going to have to add an appeal process for vote manipulation.
You guys have better ideas anyways, so how should we do this? What should the process be?
Let's just design it from scratch. And while we are at it… should subverse bans be appealable? Do we need to write new code for this?
Suppose we can just use PMs though.
Let's make it better.
Someone told me Voat loves stickies.
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AmaleksHairyAss ago
I want to protest the banning
https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3238502/18792834
of @fuark_auf by @argosciv, led by @theoldones. Banning for a perfectly legal and non-abusive post, no matter who made it or how much the poster or content is hated sets a horrible precedent. If we don't protect the most hated speech Voat will fall to trolls using divide and conquer tactics.
theoldones ago
FUARK WAS A PEDO WHO POSTED A PHOTO OF A CHILD.
AmaleksHairyAss ago
...and neither of those things are illegal or abusive.
theoldones ago
it gets illegal if interest is clearly expressed, and he was calling her "cute", on the same day he commented on another post with "i want to have babies with her".
if he's not a pedo, why was his account gone after only 32 minutes?
AmaleksHairyAss ago
You're stretching beyond reason and his account was deleted because that mod is a giant faggot who let his feelings override the need to be a decent mod.
theoldones ago
k, how about that time he tried posting CP depicting a child being raped to a porn sub?
AmaleksHairyAss ago
If that actually happened he should have banned for that. The fact that he wasn't banned at that time makes me suspect it didn't happen. But you can't make up for failing to ban someone in the past by banning them for something else in the present. It's like a judge deciding you committed a murder 10 years ago and therefore giving you 10 years in prison for a parking ticket.
theoldones ago
https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3213791/
AmaleksHairyAss ago
A clip from a movie showing simulated rape? What I hear you saying is it wasn't actually CP.
theoldones ago
a clip showing the rape of child, posted as pornography
open and shut case of CP. doesnt matter where the first file came from. context sets it so.
AmaleksHairyAss ago
I disagree. If it's pornographic it's CP. A published movie is not going to have actual CP in it. Taking a short clip out of it is sketchy but IMO it doesn't quite cross the line.
theoldones ago
the scene was isolated and posted on its own as pornograhy
even under remix law, that sets it as porn
its CP
Rotteuxx ago
@puttitout has already made it clear he doesn't oppose selective censorship of users by honoring @srayzie as a builder when she's an emotionally driven cancer mod who attacks users and exposes PMs publicly in desperate ad hominem attacks.
Him honoring her was a clear condonation of that mentality and way of acting.
srayzie ago
You can’t even show respect to the owner of this website that allows you free speech. I don’t expect you to agree with a Q-Tard. People like you are TOXIC and all about division.
Rotteuxx ago
Says the bitch responsible for the last few days of shit hitting the fan
You cognitive dissonance is impressive.
srayzie ago
Somebody is butt hurt. Grow some balls dude.