Chill on the "threats" Voat (Voat)

submitted ago by PuttItOut

There has been an increasing number of content that is bordering or crossing the lines concerning making "threats." So much so that we have been formally contacted regarding some content. We are better than this.

I'm not a lawyer, and you're not a lawyer, and it isn't Voat's place to defend illegal content. We don't have a staff to review content and don't have a team of lawyers dedicated to deciding what is and isn't lawful. I'm not also into endlessly debating what is and isn't legal as subjects like this often devolve into when everyone at the party is an "internet expert."

We have to deal with this issue and if content is in the grey area, we are going to remove it upon request. We also have to cooperate with law enforcement, I hope everyone fully understands that we are not attempting to operate outside of the law. Voat's purpose is to provide a collusion and censorship free place for discussion, not taking on a government.

It's easy to avoid this entire area: Word content maturely, avoid implicit and explicit language concerning the involvement of violence and the content won't be in question. Simple, so very simple.

After this post there will most likely be "users" testing this line and hoping we remove their content in order to claim censorship on Voat. This is just how things like this work. Don't fall for this Voat. It would be simply incredible if we just worked together on this instead of the typical shit storm posts like this usually generate.

As a reminder: Voat is for your personal, lawful use. See it here: https://voat.co/help/useragreement

That's all. Thanks for reading. Carry on.

Edit:

ProTip: I decided to post this before anything legal would prevent me from doing so. I have a feeling I know where this is going to lead.

I've also updated the canary to reflect this as well (this may be the last time that little guy gets an update, we will just have to wait and see).

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fujin ago

The funny thing is I was in the process of making a post regarding how the "race war now" and "we need to take action now" gaslighting shit would lead to some sort of censorship on here and I'm sure it would've been downvoted to hell at this point with how brazzingly dumb some people on here have been lately.

There's a clear difference between freedom of speech which includes saying things like "gas the kikes", "killer niggers", etc and inflammatory speech like inciting imminent violence, call to arms, etc which is NOT protected under the US First Amendment.

As per Brandenburg vs. Ohio, here's what crosses the line with inflammatory speech and what will trigger the government to get involved (e.g. force the admins to clean shit up or shut down the site):

1. The speech is “directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action,” AND 2. The speech is “likely to incite or produce such action.”

The Brandenburg test is currently the unbeaten precedent upheld by the courts for speech that could be seen as instigating violence.

I can almost guarantee that there are teams (government and non-government) dedicated to watch and observe what we post on this site, waiting for comments that they can use to mount a case against Voat and eventually get this site shut down like they've already done to some others. And I'm sure there are active users on here from said groups that are giving us rope to hang ourselves.

Don't be the dumbass that shoots themselves in the dick here if you care about this site at all. Out jew the jew who is but a fraction of the population and yet gained power and influence without a drop of their own blood being shed.

Here's a precedent that many judges refer to in regards to inflammatory speech:

“Strong and effective extemporaneous rhetoric cannot be nicely channeled in purely dulcet phrases. An advocate must be free to stimulate his audience with spontaneous and emotional appeals for unity and action in a common cause. When such appeals do not incite lawless action, they must be regarded as protected speech.”

Thanks for addressing this u/PuttItOut

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