@puttitout you damn hypocrite! If credit is due then tell us who your “angel” that now partly owns voat is already!
Your silence about this is simply confirming what everyone already believe, that you sold out to the filthy Chinese communists, just like reddit did.
Keep on neglecting your users on voat and i can promise you that the European userbase will migrate elsewhere.
How about starting by telling us who you are - name, address, phone number etc. Your silence will confirm that you are a filthy EU antifa or share blue troll.
Maybe the investor put up some money to keep this site up and free speech and knows if his/her name is revealed they will be doxxed, harassed and businesses destroyed.
Euro-weenie...how dare you threaten a US citizen and company with a boycott.
European Union Framework Decision for Combating Racism and Xenophobia (2007)
Each Member State shall take the measures necessary to ensure that the following intentional conduct is punishable:
(a) publicly inciting to violence or hatred directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin;
(b) the commission of an act referred to in point (a) by public dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other material;
(c) publicly condoning, denying or grossly trivialising crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes as defined in Articles 6, 7 and 8 of the Statute of the International Criminal Court, directed against a group of persons or a member of such a group defined by reference to race, colour, religion, descent or national or ethnic origin when the conduct is carried out in a manner likely to incite to violence or hatred against such a group or a member of such a group;
Huh, now what does that word mean?
Nolo’s Plain-English Law Dictionary
Condone: To forgive, support, or overlook another person's wrong or illegal action, so that it appears the action is acceptable to the person or entity condoning it.
Unless they are EXPRESSLY speaking out against everything we know to be true (and therefore spamming the website), they are violating the law by being here.
Okay? And you think that matters to what was said?
OY VEY YOU’RE A SHILL BECAUSE YOU PROVED ME WRONG AND I WAS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT AND MY FEE FEES GOT HURT BY THE TRUUUUUUUUUUTH
Kill yourself. Tell a German Voat user to type, “The holocaust did not happen.” See what follows. If you’re so right, “nothing” will happen. Why are you afraid of this?
Here, it's not in my post history. I'm in one of the countries where denying the holocaust is banned and so close to Germany that I literally could walk there in about 2.5 hours if I wanted to. Will I be arrested soon? Nope. Browsing Voat won't do it either. I'd have to publicly express my sympathy towards Nazis and/or similar groups (which I can't since there's no sympathy from me).
First, that's not what you quoted in the previous post. Second, as you can see, the laws are different in every country. Third, just by being here I'm literally not violating ANYTHING unless I specifically browse subs that condone that shit AND actively participate in them, which I don't.
First, that's not what you quoted in the previous post.
... And.
Third, just by being here I'm literally not violating ANYTHING unless I specifically browse subs that condone that shit
All subs condone it. The holocaust didn't happen. If you reply to me again without "refuting" the statement, you are in violation of your nation's laws.
Here's my reply to you. I'm taking the second sentence as your own opinion, so I do not have to refute it. I don't like you and disagree with your opinion, therefore I'm well within the law.
Better question, has the data collected on me on how often i access this site been used to justify me being placed on a special type of list yet?
Id rather not have to choose between censorship and being targeted by (((them))).
is that a joke? what kind of idiot are you to believe you arent already on those lists. did you completely neglect to read any of the snowden released documents? they know EVERYTHING YOU DO ON THE INTERNET. tor be dammed, everything else be dammed. you have no privacy. they already know everything they need to know about you. the fact that you think otherwise only proves what they, again, already know. you are no meaningful threat to them.
And what kind of idiot are you to believe that they are not continously building your profile?! As if they suddenly just stop once the learning process once there is enough data.
One thing i can promise you, i know more about these types of things than you will ever know.. unless you are like me that is.
thats just it. you seem to be under the impression the ownership of voat has any bearing at all on if they know what you are doing on voat. it doesnt. they already know and will continue to know regardless of who owns voat or if those owners are sharing data deliberately or not.
Your reply is proof that you've at least forfeited some or all of your electronic privacy. You may or may not have your personal spaces swept regularly for the latest surveillance devices, but that's a different topic.
if you use social media they know you do. if they dont know then you go through AMAZING lengths to ensure as much. such as only ever using public computers and never carrying a cell phone and driving pre computer era cars and no laptop. and when you consider the likely capabilities they could use if they really WANTED to know where you are, then you would need to conceal your face even when using public computers, lest they use facial recognition and the images from cell phone and surveilance cameras to identify you and connect you to your activity. you have no privacy.
well the guy i was originally arguing with seems to be under the impression voats ownership has some impact on the level of surveilance he is under. it doesnt.
You do realize that playing smug has absolutely no effect in this case right?! If this “secret” backer is collecting our data maliciously, then you can keep you “sandbox and toys”. I’d rather be homeless than live with cancer.
Speculation i that it's James Woods. He's one of these guys who supposedly scored big with Bitcoin which is why he doesn't care about incinerating his career in current year Hollywood. But he needs it to remain secret, because if he associates too closely with Voat then it becomes a hard target of the msm.
The other spec is that it's the NSA, because each "alphabet agency" has their own social media platform they keep operational with black funds. And Q is somewhat based out of here too (primary platform being 8ch). CIA funds Twitter and Reddit if I remember it right. Perhaps all of Google too (whose umbrella parent company is called "Alphabet" btw - they like their little jokes).
The overview is that we're in the middle of an inter-agency civil war as well as the more obvious cultural war with the internet/new media as the primary battle ground for propaganda. Probably why trump hasn't re-instituted the Smith-Mundt act, because he needs the edge he's getting from being such an effective player of public opinion via new media.
I think China only comes in peripherally. They have their shill squads, but they're like everything out of China. A cheap, low quality knock off and easy to spot as such. At most, other players use them as proxy armies I suspect. Nobody trusts them and I suspect what ever way all this washes out, the Chinks are getting erased because they have too many imperialistic ambitions in a world that's already been carved up by better and smarter factions. At best the jews would use them as a huge human organ and fetus blood farm with some puppet Farmer Xiangs in charge.
Finally a good answer. Problem is that unless it is the first option.. the whole idea of being on a “censorless” website loses its entire appeal.
What? Im only allowed to freely express myself as long as the mother of all intelligence agencies are able to collect their data on me? Is no better than reddit.
Quickly? Ive seen so many posts on here questioning the same thing without ever getting a concrete answer.
Ive noticed many regular users already backing off their usual posting, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the ones remaining are either in on it or too stupid to realize what is happening here.
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TH0UGHTP0LICE ago
False. Still have my penis.
PuttItOut ago
Ok, this was a great reply. Credit where credit is due.
CalmRules ago
@puttitout you damn hypocrite! If credit is due then tell us who your “angel” that now partly owns voat is already! Your silence about this is simply confirming what everyone already believe, that you sold out to the filthy Chinese communists, just like reddit did. Keep on neglecting your users on voat and i can promise you that the European userbase will migrate elsewhere.
Fuckyounigger ago
you remind me of someone... someone i havent seen a long long time... dare i ask sanegoat?
keksupreme ago
ok so where is the evidence.
also we all know you are just another stupid whiny jew posting this shit.
"muh russia, muh commies"
you meant jew not european right? yeah that's what i thought
Improbablyanasshole ago
Calm down.
bareknuckles ago
How about starting by telling us who you are - name, address, phone number etc. Your silence will confirm that you are a filthy EU antifa or share blue troll.
Maybe the investor put up some money to keep this site up and free speech and knows if his/her name is revealed they will be doxxed, harassed and businesses destroyed.
Euro-weenie...how dare you threaten a US citizen and company with a boycott.
everlastingphelps ago
Rule 3. Fuck off.
NiklausTheNaked ago
You act as though he owes this to you. You can easily stop using the site. He could have just bought told us anything.
capnflummox ago
Well... to be fair... without 'us', there wouldn't be any content for him that would make the site worth selling.
It's a circle, dude. Not a line.
NiklausTheNaked ago
The thing we get in return is a bastion of free speech. Feel that tug on your cock? That's five fingers of freedom.
Tallest_Skil ago
It's already illegal for most of Europe to even be here. Why would that matter to them?
think- ago
BS.
Tallest_Skil ago
Huh, now what does that word mean?
Unless they are EXPRESSLY speaking out against everything we know to be true (and therefore spamming the website), they are violating the law by being here.
think- ago
B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.
Are you trying to scare British and Euro users away from Voat? Nobody in Europe committs an offence when on Voat.
Try harder next time.
@Vindicator @Crensch @kevdude @MadWorld @PeaceSeeker
Tallest_Skil ago
You were literally just proven wrong.
No, you stupid fucking retard. I'm stating the law.
You were literally just proven wrong.
think- ago
Nobody has ever been arrested in Europe for being on Voat, that's BULLSHIT.
And now please excuse me, I have better things to do than talking to a shill. Bye.
@Vindicator @Crensch @kevdude @MadWorld @PeaceSeeker
Tallest_Skil ago
Okay? And you think that matters to what was said?
Kill yourself. Tell a German Voat user to type, “The holocaust did not happen.” See what follows. If you’re so right, “nothing” will happen. Why are you afraid of this?
praivo ago
Here, it's not in my post history. I'm in one of the countries where denying the holocaust is banned and so close to Germany that I literally could walk there in about 2.5 hours if I wanted to. Will I be arrested soon? Nope. Browsing Voat won't do it either. I'd have to publicly express my sympathy towards Nazis and/or similar groups (which I can't since there's no sympathy from me).
think- ago
You should really add an 'edit' when you edit your comments. /s Apart from that, repeating:
doesn't make it true.
Tallest_Skil ago
I thought I got it in in time. Ah, well.
You were literally just proven wrong.
think- ago
LOL. Thank you for the laugh. :-)
You didn't even get that what you quoted is only a 'Framework Decision', not a law. rolls eyes
It's up to the EU member states to implement that into national law. Do you know anything about EU lawmaking and European laws? Obviously not.
And there is no member state that has a law that would make accessing Voat a punishable offence.
Didn't they tell you at MediaMatters? /s
As I said - try harder next time. Have a nice afternoon! :-)
@Vindicator @Crensch @kevdude @MadWorld @PeaceSeeker
Tallest_Skil ago
Go back to Tumblr, you stupid fucking bitch.
praivo ago
First, that's not what you quoted in the previous post. Second, as you can see, the laws are different in every country. Third, just by being here I'm literally not violating ANYTHING unless I specifically browse subs that condone that shit AND actively participate in them, which I don't.
Tallest_Skil ago
... And.
All subs condone it. The holocaust didn't happen. If you reply to me again without "refuting" the statement, you are in violation of your nation's laws.
Tallest_Skil ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE POSTS DISAPPEARED WHEN I SAID THAT.
praivo ago
Here's my reply to you. I'm taking the second sentence as your own opinion, so I do not have to refute it. I don't like you and disagree with your opinion, therefore I'm well within the law.
markrod420 ago
have you been sensored yet?
CalmRules ago
Better question, has the data collected on me on how often i access this site been used to justify me being placed on a special type of list yet? Id rather not have to choose between censorship and being targeted by (((them))).
think- ago
They collect your data when accessing any website.
antiplebbitor ago
You’re already on the (((list))), bud.
When civil war hits, we must expect to be the first ones fucked with.
Rhodesians never die!
Blacksmith21 ago
Selous Scouts never die. They just disappear into their beards.
Hand_of_Node ago
Be a man among men. We fight to win.
Blacksmith21 ago
Fuck yeah man. Armpits with eyeballs.
God's speed to your homeland - America.
markrod420 ago
is that a joke? what kind of idiot are you to believe you arent already on those lists. did you completely neglect to read any of the snowden released documents? they know EVERYTHING YOU DO ON THE INTERNET. tor be dammed, everything else be dammed. you have no privacy. they already know everything they need to know about you. the fact that you think otherwise only proves what they, again, already know. you are no meaningful threat to them.
CalmRules ago
And what kind of idiot are you to believe that they are not continously building your profile?! As if they suddenly just stop once the learning process once there is enough data.
One thing i can promise you, i know more about these types of things than you will ever know.. unless you are like me that is.
markrod420 ago
thats just it. you seem to be under the impression the ownership of voat has any bearing at all on if they know what you are doing on voat. it doesnt. they already know and will continue to know regardless of who owns voat or if those owners are sharing data deliberately or not.
capnflummox ago
The only privacy we have is the one we make for ourselves. Perhaps you have none. Great for you.
Stop projecting.
Hand_of_Node ago
Your reply is proof that you've at least forfeited some or all of your electronic privacy. You may or may not have your personal spaces swept regularly for the latest surveillance devices, but that's a different topic.
markrod420 ago
if you use social media they know you do. if they dont know then you go through AMAZING lengths to ensure as much. such as only ever using public computers and never carrying a cell phone and driving pre computer era cars and no laptop. and when you consider the likely capabilities they could use if they really WANTED to know where you are, then you would need to conceal your face even when using public computers, lest they use facial recognition and the images from cell phone and surveilance cameras to identify you and connect you to your activity. you have no privacy.
Hand_of_Node ago
All my covert work was before the internet, and at this point I don't care about non-commercial surveillance all that much.
markrod420 ago
well the guy i was originally arguing with seems to be under the impression voats ownership has some impact on the level of surveilance he is under. it doesnt.
anamazonslittle ago
Well, bye then.
Not your sandbox, not your toys. You're not in any position to demand, nor are you entitled to anything
capnflummox ago
Once again we point out that the site would have no content without the users. So, yes, we have "earned" 'anything'. Not entitled to it. Earned it.
CalmRules ago
You do realize that playing smug has absolutely no effect in this case right?! If this “secret” backer is collecting our data maliciously, then you can keep you “sandbox and toys”. I’d rather be homeless than live with cancer.
Norseman ago
Are you this retarded in real life too, or is just online?
capnflummox ago
I think it's just in your company.
Gorillion ago
Speculation i that it's James Woods. He's one of these guys who supposedly scored big with Bitcoin which is why he doesn't care about incinerating his career in current year Hollywood. But he needs it to remain secret, because if he associates too closely with Voat then it becomes a hard target of the msm.
The other spec is that it's the NSA, because each "alphabet agency" has their own social media platform they keep operational with black funds. And Q is somewhat based out of here too (primary platform being 8ch). CIA funds Twitter and Reddit if I remember it right. Perhaps all of Google too (whose umbrella parent company is called "Alphabet" btw - they like their little jokes).
The overview is that we're in the middle of an inter-agency civil war as well as the more obvious cultural war with the internet/new media as the primary battle ground for propaganda. Probably why trump hasn't re-instituted the Smith-Mundt act, because he needs the edge he's getting from being such an effective player of public opinion via new media.
I think China only comes in peripherally. They have their shill squads, but they're like everything out of China. A cheap, low quality knock off and easy to spot as such. At most, other players use them as proxy armies I suspect. Nobody trusts them and I suspect what ever way all this washes out, the Chinks are getting erased because they have too many imperialistic ambitions in a world that's already been carved up by better and smarter factions. At best the jews would use them as a huge human organ and fetus blood farm with some puppet Farmer Xiangs in charge.
keksupreme ago
i'm pretty sure that you are just a whiny jew shill mad that voat isn't getting censored enough
Trumpocrat2020 ago
I think woods made his money off Amazon.
capnflummox ago
Apple.
Trumpocrat2020 ago
Could be, I might be confusing him with Scott Adams.
capnflummox ago
It could be both. I only know that last year he (Woods) tweeted openly his love for Apple based on his fortune from early investments.
CalmRules ago
Finally a good answer. Problem is that unless it is the first option.. the whole idea of being on a “censorless” website loses its entire appeal. What? Im only allowed to freely express myself as long as the mother of all intelligence agencies are able to collect their data on me? Is no better than reddit.
oneinchterror ago
Chill
Atomized_Individual ago
Yea, ((( Chinese )))
LampshadeMaker ago
They're the new kike proxy.
Zevediah ago
That escalated quickly.
CalmRules ago
Quickly? Ive seen so many posts on here questioning the same thing without ever getting a concrete answer. Ive noticed many regular users already backing off their usual posting, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the ones remaining are either in on it or too stupid to realize what is happening here.
Zevediah ago
Well, they were talking about the condition of u/TH0UGHTP0LICE's penis...