Read CONTEXT at end of post
Currently Voat’s "Private" subverse feature is primarily used to allow subs to disassociate their posts from v/all, all content is still public in every sense other than this. This isn’t really private, it’s more like a hidden setting.
For internal reasons Voat needs to implement a private subverse feature in which only approved people have access to the subverse content (pro tip: a lot of features we work on and end up offering were/are primarily developed for internal reasons like the upcoming Vote and Packages features).
Before we start any work on this feature, I want to discuss how to develop this feature and get your feedback and concerns.
As I see it, we have the classic concept of Private in which only approved people (members) can access subverse content. The only question is one of implementation: what controls access to subverse: subscriptions or moderator privileges? If we use subscriptions, we will have to modify the process so that moderators can approve a subscription request, otherwise the moderator feature would suffice. If we use a moderator approach, other users can see who is part of the private subverse which is good for transparency. Pros/cons to both approaches.
Some concerns I see:
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Should we have different "Private" settings like a ReadOnly
differentiation so that a subverse can choose to display content to non-members but not allow non-members to submit posts/comments i.e. a read only approach?
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What if a subverse is private and a new subscriber is added, should this new member have full access to subverse content or should all content submitted before they were added be inaccessible to them? In other words, only content submitted after a user became a member is visible to them. This concern is to allow existing members to be reassured their prior content is protected.
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Should private subverse content show up in front-page/sets or should the subverse content only be accessible via navigating to the subverse itself?
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Should pings be dropped when the target user isn’t a member?
There are probably other considerations I haven’t thought about, so let me know your thoughts.
CONTEXT
As with any change, we are all looking at the potential for abuse (which I see), so I want to give everyone a context of where this comes from so you can see the intentions involved with the thought.
I want to setup a corporate Voat instance for business related concerns that will be accessible by all Voat employees and members of the community that are involved with the operations of Voat (this is called dogfooding in the software world). In this instance I'd like to have a subverse about Finances that is restricted to only company executives, as well as a Legal subverse accessible to legal council, etc.
In these scenarios, private subverses are needed as a Voat developer or community manager wouldn't need access to this "sensitive" content.
I think it's important to note where this idea stems from and that this idea was never one of ill intention (i.e. This is the end of Voat!). This is why I mentioned "internal" above.
As always, we are just getting feedback here, let's try to look for solutions to the concerns rather than throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Edit
Consensus is in: Voat loves this idea... Pause... Pause... Not. ;)
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TheBuddha ago
But... I fear change!
neogag ago
Meme phrases like "fear of change" completely bypass what the change actually consists of. "Change" must be the most abused word ever in this kind of context.
TheBuddha ago
Lurk more, newfag.
neogag ago
You sound just like the famous hacker 4chan. I'm sure nobody can tell you're wearing dad jeans.
TheBuddha ago
Worse...
I'm already dressed in my stage clothing.
neogag ago
Break a leg (literally) (but not really) (good luck).
TheBuddha ago
LOL I already have a smashed femur.
neogag ago
I had no idea. How'd that happen? In any case, I hope you have a speedy recovery.
TheBuddha ago
LOL I am not sure how you could have missed it. I poster tons of pics, including me in the hospital. (I'm not the least bit worried about being doxxed.)
In October, the 20th to be exact, I was involved in a spectacular car wreck. Note, I do not call it an accident. It was the only possible outcome.
I was a passenger, egging the drunk driver on. The police report says we left the travel lane at speeds exceeding 120 mph. We went through a telephone pole, some trees, some more trees, and then we smashed into a big tree and a giant rock. The car was torn to shreds and in three distinct pieces. As in, completely torn off.
We left a debris field that looked like a plane crash.
It looks like a car that's gone through a crusher, to be quite frank.
It was a nice car. It was a Mustang GT350. It had racing harnesses and a built in roll cage.
That's why I'm alive.
I broke a bunch of bones, but the most serious was my femur. It broke right at the head, where it turns into the ball. I broke some ribs, a heel, and was bruised over 80% of my body.
Truth be told, it was a pretty damned good day, until we left the ground. It was still not bad, until we went through the telephone pole.
Would you like to see?
It'll be a 12 to 18 month recovery.
neogag ago
I only ever browse the front page and our paths almost never cross. I don't know very much about you other than I probably disagree with you on most things.
That's crazy. Drunk driving is retarded, as is being egging on a drunk driver from the passenger's seat.
Why not.
Despite the immense stupidity that led to this accident, I wish you a speedy recovery and at the risk of sounding significantly older than you, I hope you learned a lesson.
TheBuddha ago
I'm the first to admit I make bad decisions. It's what I do.
https://imgoat.com/uploads/8a2fc6ed39/191320.jpg
neogag ago
Ouch.
TheBuddha ago
Oh yeah. It's painful. They give me a ton of drugs.
The bill is well over a million dollars now. I don't give a shit. The car was well insured, as it used to be a nice car. I'm also not worried if it exceeds the insurance. I've got a few bucks.
I get the best care available. We even flew in a surgeon. My many guests and I ate things like lobster at the hospital. I had a private ward until like the last two days.
It sucks, but I do my PT. I'm healing rapidly. They'll be teaching me new gait mechanics.
It's a small price to pay for the many bad decisions I've made. I don't really let it bother me. I sure as hell won't let it defeat me.
For a while, it was touch and go as to if I'd walk again. Last night, I stood on stage for 2.5 hours and entertained over 1,000 people. I'm not going to let a smashed femur stop me.
neogag ago
I see.
Good. Best of luck!
clamhurt_legbeard ago
Pfff... Let him heal the first broken leg first.