Read CONTEXT at end of post
Currently Voat’s "Private" subverse feature is primarily used to allow subs to disassociate their posts from v/all, all content is still public in every sense other than this. This isn’t really private, it’s more like a hidden setting.
For internal reasons Voat needs to implement a private subverse feature in which only approved people have access to the subverse content (pro tip: a lot of features we work on and end up offering were/are primarily developed for internal reasons like the upcoming Vote and Packages features).
Before we start any work on this feature, I want to discuss how to develop this feature and get your feedback and concerns.
As I see it, we have the classic concept of Private in which only approved people (members) can access subverse content. The only question is one of implementation: what controls access to subverse: subscriptions or moderator privileges? If we use subscriptions, we will have to modify the process so that moderators can approve a subscription request, otherwise the moderator feature would suffice. If we use a moderator approach, other users can see who is part of the private subverse which is good for transparency. Pros/cons to both approaches.
Some concerns I see:
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Should we have different "Private" settings like a ReadOnly
differentiation so that a subverse can choose to display content to non-members but not allow non-members to submit posts/comments i.e. a read only approach?
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What if a subverse is private and a new subscriber is added, should this new member have full access to subverse content or should all content submitted before they were added be inaccessible to them? In other words, only content submitted after a user became a member is visible to them. This concern is to allow existing members to be reassured their prior content is protected.
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Should private subverse content show up in front-page/sets or should the subverse content only be accessible via navigating to the subverse itself?
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Should pings be dropped when the target user isn’t a member?
There are probably other considerations I haven’t thought about, so let me know your thoughts.
CONTEXT
As with any change, we are all looking at the potential for abuse (which I see), so I want to give everyone a context of where this comes from so you can see the intentions involved with the thought.
I want to setup a corporate Voat instance for business related concerns that will be accessible by all Voat employees and members of the community that are involved with the operations of Voat (this is called dogfooding in the software world). In this instance I'd like to have a subverse about Finances that is restricted to only company executives, as well as a Legal subverse accessible to legal council, etc.
In these scenarios, private subverses are needed as a Voat developer or community manager wouldn't need access to this "sensitive" content.
I think it's important to note where this idea stems from and that this idea was never one of ill intention (i.e. This is the end of Voat!). This is why I mentioned "internal" above.
As always, we are just getting feedback here, let's try to look for solutions to the concerns rather than throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Edit
Consensus is in: Voat loves this idea... Pause... Pause... Not. ;)
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Germ22 ago
I don't really like the idea of private subs on voat.
What would we really benefit from hiding stuff? I can't really put my finger on it, it's more of a bad gut feeling.
16513549? ago
I can see this being beneficial for v/TraditionalWives. Would be a way we could discuss more sensitive subjects; sounds promising.
Folke ago
You have things you need to discuss in private? Something so bad that regular voat users can't see or witness. Interesting!
SaveTheChildren ago
Empress is a larping tranny. Anyone who beleives empress is a house wife is straight up retarded.
fuckmyreddit ago
Can you say that in a Willie Wonka voice?
Folke ago
Johnny Depp or Gene Wilder?
16513641? ago
It would be nice to be able to talk openly and deeply about things like sex within marriage. Right now, that's just not an option- at least not serious discussions anyway.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
openly discussing sex within marriage on a open platform with strangers goes against living a traditional life. what kind of degenerate wants to talk about how their husband pegged her last night and have a bunch of other people give their opinions about that and how they want their husbands to do that too? disgusting and I'm pretty appalled you're advocating for that
16520944? ago
Is that really what you took from what I wrote? Really?
lets_get_hyyerr ago
That's what a BUNCH of people took from your comment.
so you can become a degenerate and talk about your private sexual interactions with your spouse? yea, that's what I got. gross.
16521272? ago
You're revealing your own heart and mind.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Oh, I'm sorry. Was I the one advocating for a totally private subverse where I can talk about the sexual interactions between myself and my spouse openly to others while also running a subverse dedicated to the traditional lifestyle?
Wait, no that was you. You can try to turn this around on me or whomever else you'd like but you've already exposed yourself as a degenerate in this thread for everyone to see and you're being downvoted for it. Keep deflecting onto others. You're doing a great job at epitomizing the female mindset
16522312? ago
LOL! You're ridiculous.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Keep going empress. Keep making it fun for me to shit on your degenerate style of moderation and advocation for totally private subs
AttackHelicopter ago
Why would you need to discuss sex with your husband with strangers? Sounds pretty degenerate.
16516711? ago
Believe it or not, not everyone has a perfect sex life and issues arise within marriage.
NNdmt ago
How is that not an option? I would gladly publicly discuss sex within marriage in a public forum, because its not like nndmt is my real fucking name or anything
Folke ago
OH, so you only want certain peoples feedback instead of a full open to everyone discussion that could result in opinions for information you don't want to be seen or heard? Sounds like what liberals love to do.
16513758? ago
Alternatively, certain well known trolls could still view the content but wouldn't be able to derail the conversation.
Sburban_Shitposter ago
just ignore them
PuttsMum ago
Nooooooooooooooo :p
NNdmt ago
dealing with trolls is as easy as downvote and move on
16516669? ago
Sure and that's what we do. But it also inhibits certain intimate discussions.
downton-stabby ago
That's not what this site is designed for. Go to reddit then.
fuckmyreddit ago
Can't you just start a knitting group on a new wordpress site?
Folke ago
well now you're just changing the goal posts. So are you for private subs only a small " IN " group can access? Or are you wanting open subs that are closed to posts by non members.
Private subs that are closed to the general public isn't something the "right" does. Its lefty BS that only can created division and destruction.