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robot7247 ago

Nice one Clammy, lots of good stuff there.

The 1897 stuck around awhile. If you believe wiki, they made it into the Vietnam war too. Could be, the US bought a lot and piled them high in depots between wars. Digging will turn up a few pics of the 1897 in early WW2 War in the Pacific action.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/world-war-2/images/b/b1/Firearms_shotgun_m97_marine_ww2_375.jpg

these guns are hammer fired

One of the few that are. The Stevens 520 will do this, also a JM Browning design. I have one and never tried it with med/high brass loads. With low brass it's video game enjoyable -

https://riaccdn.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/dev_cdn/51/2019.jpg

...and they are all have a takedown feature -

https://images.gunsinternational.com/listings_sub/acc_51511/gi_100612420/100612420_51511_759BEF179D2F15FD.JPG

Amazingly, the Stevens 520 (and variants) don't carry a premium. You can still find great examples cheap but word is getting around on them. They also sold them through Montgomery-Ward, Sears, and other distribution too. If you know what a 520 looks like it doesn't matter what they say on the receiver. Western Field or JC Higgins branded ones pretty common. But all 520s have the Browning hump. They can be dressed up in all sorts of cool ways -

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fmgm-content%2Fsites%2Farmslist%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2016%2F06%2F12%2F5569978_01_stevens_520_30_12_trench_shotg_640.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

clamhurt_legbeard ago

very cool man

thanks for all that added info on another classic

robot7247 ago

You bet, glad my footnotes have a place to be relevant.

I've seen some good deals over the years on 1897s but they were always duck guns with 28-30" barrels. Just can't bring myself to bob one. Original trench & riot barrels will cost you nearly as much as the complete gun. That's how I landed on the Stevens 520s. They were used extensively from WW2 through Vietnam along w/ the 620. They're beasts!

clamhurt_legbeard ago

exactly

short barrels are where its at but you dont cut a century old browning design

i got a mossberg

robot7247 ago

Yep, they aren't making any more of those.

Mossberg pumps are great shotguns. Although released in the 60s, not sure if they made it to Vietnam.

I believe they are current military issue since the 80s though.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

truth

both mossbergs and remingtons are in the military nowadays

and a bit easier to find lol