sometimes a gun is just as stubborn and tough as its creator
this is a glock pistol
they come in a ton of flavors
theyre pretty reasonably priced
and everybody and their brother is using one
it pretty much invented the modern handgun
how did it come about
perfectly smooth segue
so back in the 60s there was this austrian dude named gaston glock
he made curtain rods
like for real
but one day his inner manbeast came out and he decided to make weapons instead
first he started making knives
the sheath and handle are a durable polymer
he bought the equipment and set it up in his garage
fuck needing a factory
the he hired a bunch of camera makers because he knew jack shit about using polymer except that it was cheap and durable
he also made an entrenching tool
and then in 1980 the austrian military put out a request for a new pistol to replace their old wwii stuff
among other things they wanted it in 9mm
drop safe
and it had to pass a hardcore durability test
15000rds and then a proof charge at double the pressure
glock didnt have any experience with guns
but he wasnt gonna let that shit stop him
i mean this guy fought off a french mercenary sent to kill him with a hammer
glock punched him out
and this happened when he was in in his friggin 80s
you think hes gonna be stopped by some bs excuse like
oh you have literally no idea what youre doing
fuck off with that noise
so glock gathered up all the good gun designers he could find and they all brainstormed up the best traits of various pistols
from the double action revolver they took the long trigger pull with no manual safety for instant readiness
they made it striker fired so it couldnt be discharged unless the trigger was pulled
tilting barrel lockup like the 1911
and they added their own innovations
the slide is treated with a black nitriding process
they were the first to bring this to firearms
its super fuckin hard and rust resistant
the trigger itself is part of the safety
that skinny middle part has to be pulled by your finger or it blocks the safety from going rearward
helps prevent a glancing tug on the side from firing the gun
like if youre holstering or something
and the most noticeable innovation is all that fuckin polymer
like we talked about how glock started making the knives out of polymer
well he breathed so many polymer fumes he got addicted and the gun is full of the stuff
as a result its durable and light
plus cheap to build
glock wasnt the absolute first to try this on a gun
but his design was a million times more successful than anything that tried it before
so he basically made the striker fired polymer frame autoloader into the de facto modern combat handgun
name any handgun from the past 20 years
yup i told you thats a polymer frame striker fired gun
the design was so good in the trials it blew away a bunch of the major established companies and the multiple designs they all submitted
like guys im talking some of the best
heckler und koch
sig sauer
fabrique nationale
steyr
nah fuck that
glock beat them all with what they christened the glock 17
so named because it was glocks seventeenth patent
but it coincidentally holds 17 rounds of 9x19mm
17 fuckin rounds guys
thats way more than anything before
this was such a big deal it was called the wondernine
so after that everybody started taking a serious look at this thing
glock got subsequent contracts with other militaries
and they made a huge push to get police departments to buy them
as a result a huge number of departments since the 90s have all used glocks
its probably the single most popular police gun out there
now lets talk more about the specifics
i said it was striker fired
so that mans the thing doesnt have a hammer
it has a very long heavy firing pin that has a hook at the back end
and a spring pushing it forward
as the slide goes back the hook gets caught and is held like halfway back
then the trigger pushes it back the rest of the way before letting it go
that way the firing pin wont set off a round if it slips because it doesnt have enough energy
the flip side of this is the trigger isnt super great
long and kinda mushy and not smooth
you gotta fight the striker spring on the way back
supposedly the newest versions are a little better
but i wouldnt know
another different thing is the barrel
it has polygonal rifling
the barrel doesnt get channels cut into it like normal rifling
instead it gets hammered into a hexagon or octagon
the cutting action can leave the rifled areas weaker
meanwhile hammering into a hexagon is a little stronger
and it gives a slightly better seal around the bullet and makes the barrel a bit easier to clean which is kinda nice
another pro about glocks is theyre very reliable
and like i said they come in lots of sizes and a bunch of calibers
the guns names go from 17 on up into the 40s
and they have everything from .380 to 10mm
the internal mechanism is almost identical among all models tho
and theyre easy to field strip
first
remove the magazine and empty the chamber
for real tho
because then you pull the trigger
then pull back on the slide just barely and pull down this tab
the barrel slide and recoil spring all come off the front as a unit and are easily separated
super simple
the glock was so successful that the designers of any combat auto from the past 30 years have taken a very hard look at it
many things are inspired by it
ranging from trying out polymer
to our trigger design is so close we lost a lawsuit to glock
seriously guys
thats their trigger they will fucking sue you
if you want a glock
just go to literally anywhere that sells guns
i havent bought a glock lately but i assume its around 550 bucks
keep in mind too that there are a ton of used police guns for cheap
customization is both excellent and mediocre
on the one hand there is a huge market for parts in any shape and material you want
probably the glock and 1911 have more options than anything by a huge margin
on the other hand the frame is a huge limitation
the glock is shaped like a 2x4
and if that doesnt fit you dont have many options
some people dremel the polymer
i did that to mine
and some even go so far as to fill the back grip with epoxy and do major surgery
plus you can get a soldering iron and stipple the hell out of it
so yeah
customization is a mixed bag
real hard to do some stuff
but much easier to do others
overall tho it sets the bar for what a serious handgun needs to do and everything else is either competing directly with it
or trying to set itself apart by being cheaper or much fancier
because honestly if all you need is a gun that will always go bang and dont have a ton of money
you can just get a glock and call it a day
just dont try taking it through any metal detectors
lol
pew pew
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IanTheTerrible ago
Great post as always. Just to piggyback on it, I’d also like to point out that the Glock 20 has been the best $500 reliable 10mm pistol for over a decade. Most 10mm pistols on the market are either way more finicky with annoying selection, or are way more expensive, but the G20 is one of the best beginner-friendly 10mm pistols available.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
heck yeah
10mm is best mm
ExpertShitposter ago
ahem
clamhurt_legbeard ago
lol
i specifically didnt talk about that
40 is a tricky thing
notice how newer glocks got a double nested recoil spring to deal with the 40
Battlefat ago
Good one clammy.
I’ve owned two polymer striker fired pistols and neither was a Glock — that needs to change but I’m a whore for sick rifles and steel pistols
ExpertShitposter ago
Hammer and MeTaL.
A patricians choice.
Battlefat ago
I bought a “Glock”
clamhurt_legbeard ago
see
and yet i betcha a dollar they both came long after
glock invented an entirely new market
come to think of it ive owned at least three
but only one was glock
ExpertShitposter ago
Not polymer lowers them selves tho.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_VP70
clamhurt_legbeard ago
correct
it was the first successful one by a longshot
and the market of polymer striker fired autoloaders is glock based
not hk based
but hk was definitely first
Battlefat ago
Basically Glock
clamhurt_legbeard ago
i mean hey
hondas run great lol
Battlefat ago
Yes, it’s a compliment to Honda (and Glock)
Zinnsee ago
I really like these posts clammy, keep em coming!
If I had to carry a gun all day that I could rely on when needed, it would be a Glock. But just for fun on the range I'll choose something else.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
ok but ill eventually have to stop when i run out of guns i like
lol
Zinnsee ago
Luckily there's plenty of guns to like out there :)
clamhurt_legbeard ago
hehehehehe
Helbrecht ago
Good post as always clammy
clamhurt_legbeard ago
thank you sir
Karbuster ago
And that is why my edc is a Glock 19
clamhurt_legbeard ago
thats your cool nickname
you must post here regularly
im a saturday night special lol
drakesdoom2 ago
It's a rifle, because you have been noticed.
Karbuster ago
Ah, i get it
Karabiner 98k made by mauser
1moar ago
Excellent post. And now I miss my Glock. Well, I have but you just ripped the scab off.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
mine got stolen
altro87 ago
This is good bro.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
thank you sir
check out the rest if you like them
drakesdoom2 ago
Holy fuck clammy. Now you gone and done it. You insulted my prize nigger goodifier.
Wonder nines are 9mm double stack METAL FRAMED pistols. Because on top of capacity recoil left the building and ain't coming back.
If you ever need to put some holes in a barn door, don't use a Glock. It will put one hole in your neighbors barn and three in your car.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
lol
whats your prize goodifier
you didnt say
but seriously bro im pretty darn sure the term came about for glocks
drakesdoom2 ago
A SS elite 229.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
nice
i have a west german 226
Adminstrater ago
Can't the glock shoot underwater, or am I confused with movies?
Also, I am little confused when it comes to:
Why would this be something that people need to do?
clamhurt_legbeard ago
yes
the glock can shoot underwater
other stuff can too
but still cool lol
because its too long front to back
hard to reach the trigger properly and reach the magazine release and slide lock
Adminstrater ago
Sweet. Thanks for the quick answers!
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thedirtypuma ago
That was a really good one. Thank you. I don't care for the glock trigger. I wouldn't even think that they would need to patent it since nobody should want to copy it. I was really surprised that they actually sued someone over it.
I have a model 17 and I like it. It's kind of strange how glock only makes this one type of gun. It's probably really smart from a manufacturing standpoint.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
thanks dude
yeah it makes sense
just focus all your engineering on ings that apply to your whole product line
the farthest design is the glock 18
but thats just a glock with an extra knob
the trigger was the smith and wesson sigma
their first polymer auto i think
they copied the trigger
but now instead of a piece in e middle
its a two piece thing
FuggBenis ago
More of these kind of posts, please.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
every second and fifth tuesday
ive done a bunch so far lol
FuggBenis ago
I must've missed them, but nowadays I mostly browse v/all. So they might've been buried under all that QRV and greatawakening circlejerking.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
dude
the link is at the bottom of the article you just read lol
FuggBenis ago
Yeah, that works. Fucking hell.
con77 ago
great post
clamhurt_legbeard ago
thank you sir
i need me a polymer 80
con77 ago
is that true about him fighting off a hit man?
clamhurt_legbeard ago
-The independent
con77 ago
incredible. I gotta be honest. Usually by this time of night Im pretty well in the bag. How many times have I told you about the 55ft seas in Alaska?
clamhurt_legbeard ago
zero times
but i went to sleep lol
tell me now instead
con77 ago
Saw 55 ft waves in a typhoon in the Bering Sea in January I think it was '82. Theres some salt water for ya! 75 knot winds -75 F windchill! Watched a walrus porpoising in the storm. Swimming for its life. I thought it was great at the time. If I was there now Id be on my knees prayin! Hows mom and the kid?
clamhurt_legbeard ago
shit dude
ive done flights where it was right at freezing and i had to hold my hand outside the window
75 knots will give you some wind chill
thats how i learned there is a new stage beyond cold
you stop even feeling the cold itself because everything is just pain
and yet i guaran damn tee it wasnt even as bad as 75 knots with fucking arctic bs
55ft is like being hit with a building
once i watched a talk with the commander of the long beach coast guard base
he was up there in the arctic for a while flying helicopters off ships
somebody asked him once if he ever thought about doing medevac stuff and his response was no
thats too dangerous
i was like holy shit
con77 ago
a building moving at 50 mph!
derram ago
https://invidio.us/watch?v=OLBvvrC1IqY&t=1m43s :
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