everlastingphelps ago

Jibberty style oinkery what don't make no sense at all.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

yeah

ExpertShitposter ago

I like the P90 enough that i could look over the plastic. As always, my favorite part it the paint.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

in this design the plastic is crucial to achieving its design goals

and yet its still kinda disconcerting how the internals look like a toy lol

ExpertShitposter ago

They could have made it alloy if they wanted, and it would have weight the same. The military simply doesn't care about looks.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

alloy

im going to full on declare that bullshit

no alloy will be as light and cheap as plastic

ExpertShitposter ago

It will be as light, but significantly more expensive.

Battlefat ago

The popularity of the p90 has grown immensely in the last few years, probably due to West World favoring them as the fictional robo-ranger sidearm of choice. In my own lengthy search for a reliable semi auto defense weapon, I settled on either a p90 or AR10. Choosing the latter makes for a decidedly more interesting story, because the out of the box reliability of the p90 is pretty fucking boring unlike your story clammy which is pretty fucking interesting.

Also, curious you didn’t make mention of the getting harder to find proprietary FN red dot — I’ve used one and the system works wonderfully as a group. Anything larger than a micro red dot on the front end of the rifle makes it look ridiculous, which is why I ultimately ruled it out

clamhurt_legbeard ago

a

L i know about the original sight is hey eventually moved to rails lol

is there more to the story

what sort of interesting things can you tell us

as for p90 vs ar10

thats pretty apples to oranges lol

Battlefat ago

Here is a link to a ps90 with FN branded sight produced by C-More sight systems. It’s housing is a lightweight polymer, so some folks feel it isn’t a durable option. I’d guess that a direct strike at an odd angle would screw up a lightweight aluminum housing equally so it’s a matter of preference since, to me at least, a miniature red dot is a miniature red dot. I’ve used the ps90 with the FN branded dot and hit overlapping rounds at 50 yds offhand so I know the damn thing works. I can’t attest to its durability but if formal militaries equip their soldiers with them, their protocols and armorers must feel their infantries suitably equipped for engagement.

As a lightweight battle rifle, the ps90 with open sights or red dot is sufficient for cqb up and out to intermediate distances <200m. For anything further out to 800m and for taking larger game than a varmint, I prefer my scoped AR10 in .308. Since I already have several reliable small caliber rifles, to add an additional small caliber rifle would have felt redundant...so I didn’t. But that’s not to say I won’t — to own all the guns is a pipe dream but I’m not ready to put the pipe down yet

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clamhurt_legbeard ago

wow

very interesting and nice shooting

i think the biggest reason they dont use an integral sight anymore is simply we have the expectation of customization and modularity nowadays

the g36 had a built in optic system that was very nice

but new ones have picatinny

i dont know much about c more but it sounds like it did fine for you

Zinnsee ago

Nice write up.

Had the chance to try one out at the range. Nice shooter, really ergonomic. But the build quality was pretty shoddy especially for what they cost. And speaking of expensive, that 50 round magazine will eat up your money crazy fast.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

so i question what you mean

its a bunch of plastic and is very light

so it might feel like a cheap chinese toy

but that doesnt mean it is

that barrel is cold hammer forged

better than any ar made in america

is the plastic and weight why the build quality felt poor to you

or was there another reason

Zinnsee ago

I shouldn't have said build quality but rather the finish of the gun. There are some details how the plastic parts mount together I didn't like and also the machining of the rail where the optics are mounted was pretty rough at a few points. I remember almost cutting myself at one time because there was a pretty nasty bit that looked as if they didn't deburr it properly. But don't forget that I'm Swiss and I'm pretty spoiled when it comes to nice machining :)

It for sure is a great package that worked great and was fun to shoot. Function wise I have no complaints, well I could be picky and tell you that the trigger isn't perfect. But that didn't really bother me at all and then again with a bullpup it's always harder to translate the same feel since the trigger group is not where the trigger is.

And the light weight I would actually rate as a plus also the fact that the gun balances really well when held in one hand.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

if trigger complaints are you being picky id say they did well

like you say the default assumption on a bullpup is at its crap

plastic finish sucks but on the owr hand you can sand it smooth

its be nice if you didnt have to but im going to modify whatever gun i ever buy so im not worried

thx for the hands on experience dude

Zinnsee ago

No problem, thanks to you for your write up. I'd be happy to read more of those in the future.

It's a great gun and probably on top of my list for a gun that I'd have to operate in a vehicle.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

have you seen the keltec rdb and rfb

very cool

Zinnsee ago

They look great! I would love to try one.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

me too

i ned a semi auto in .308

rfb might be the ticket

then again the new desertech bullpup looks good and the company is active in improving it

inrange did some videos on it

its convertible from 5.56 to .308

Zinnsee ago

Hmm I'm not sure why but I don't really like the looks of that Desert Tech bullpup. But I'll watch the video and see what gun jesus has to say about it.

Here's my .308 a SIG 751 SAPR, obviously not a bullpup.

pic1, pic2

But I guess they're pretty rare and pricey in the US.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

dude that whole family is great

excellent weapons

i just have a couple original kalashnikovs

ak103 and aks74

but id love to have a sig 550

Zinnsee ago

I really like kalashnikovs but I generally have a sweet spot for ruskie engineering.

The sig is kinda the rich mans kalashnikov. It's absolutely clear where the Swiss engineers took inspiration from.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

exactly

its a swiss kalashnikov

how could it not be amazing

i have a sweet spot for soviet shit too lol

UsedToBeCujoQuarrel ago

Got a friend with the semi-auto version

clamhurt_legbeard ago

dude niiiice

theyre really well made

were talking about fn here

ive only seen them in the stores

UsedToBeCujoQuarrel ago

He's working on getting his full auto license.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

fun fun

50rd mags help with full auto lol

H_Entropy ago

5.7 for the win

i_scream_trucks ago

How the fuck did I know you were going to fit a staff are reference in...

Shotinthedark ago

Cool gun but 30$ for 50rnds isn't cheap

clamhurt_legbeard ago

ya but going through armor would be badass

Shotinthedark ago

True, if you could buy the AP ammo for it. You can't.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

exactly

load your own i guess lol

Shotinthedark ago

Probably possible I've never seen one though and you would need to be real good to drill out a bullet and insert a small steel rod.

usethemath ago

Splendid job. I never knew I wanted one until I read this. Completely unrelated, what's the going price for an adult kidney nowadays?

clamhurt_legbeard ago

ya that sounds about right lol

Memediana_Jones ago

The main competitor to the p90, The hk mp7, sold slow at first but it receiving a bit of resurgence with special forces units. It is much lighter, much smaller, and much easier to conceal and suppress than the p90 is. You can learn all about it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJp7a_muHs0

clamhurt_legbeard ago

yesss

thx for the link dude

con77 ago

how much?

clamhurt_legbeard ago

probably a couple grand

its an fn

probably scar price

thedirtypuma ago

More like $1400 for the p90 @con77

clamhurt_legbeard ago

thank you much sir

thats actually very reasonable

con77 ago

You familiar with the Stribog? Or the Extar ep9? Id like to get the scorpion evo III but theyre over $1000. $1400 aint bad for that gun.

thedirtypuma ago

Those would all be cool. That Extar ep9 is fairly cheap. This is kind of cool.

Epictetus_Hierapolis ago

When are you going to do a scar17? I'll even make videos for you.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

dude i really should

ill let you know lol

thedirtypuma ago

Nice. You wrote the hell out of that one. Top 5 easy. Thank you.

Stargate weapon of choice

clamhurt_legbeard ago

dude thanks

sometimes i feel theyre really good

oer times im not so sure

im glad you liked it

Octocopter ago

You went all out on this.

PS. I really like the Five-seven, I wish I had one.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

i try to give lots of good info in an entertaining way

its like im teaching you in spite of myself lol