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Astronautilus ago

Ooooh, I hadn't seen the ones on global warming yet. Noice.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

basically what you need to understand about that is even in just the last 2000 years there are two examples, the roman climate optimum and the medieval warm period, where the global tempature rose faster to a higher point than it is right now and I don't think they had a lot of cars or factories. Also there's no proven link between human activity and rising temperatures, there's a lot of speculation but the science is very much still out, and while everyone (97% of scientists not that consensus means anything in science) agrees that the climate is changing, what's causing it is a different matter. It's also important to remember that 10 years ago Al Gore and a bunch of dumb ass climate scientists were saying the polar ice caps would be gone by now and large parts of the US would be underwater and what do you know he's full of shit.

also based on recent studies I've seen on solar activity over the next two years or so the average global temperature is propabaly going to go down about half a degree, watch them try to explain that to fit into their narrative. sorry if that was a little rambly I'm pretty drunk

The_AutisticShitlord ago

On the last jpg, there is a little spike at the end, is it a glitch or something really accelerate the warming? I don't think it correspond to the industrialization since the graph is in thousands of years.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

nah that graph goes up to literally right now so it has to adjust for information and speculation currently happening, the temurature did jump a bit just recently but it's going to go down soon too the important part is that the current warm period is nothing special or unique even when just looking at the last 2000 years

The_AutisticShitlord ago

Yeah I already knew that part(nothing special), I was just curious about that last spike. I heard somewhere the solar activity could have been an explaination, but I wanted to know if there is another theory less popular.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

it's a complicated subject and alot of the data coming out is politically motivated but keep researching it, another important things is that the warming isn't necessarily bad or catastrophic, in fact a warmer planet with more CO2 is great for plants and agriculture

The_AutisticShitlord ago

Yeah, the ideal CO2 level for plants is around 1200ppm. There is a study out there where they have big co2 chimney outside measuring the difference between different level of CO2 on plants. Everytime the level of CO2 rise, the plants grow bigger, with bigger fiber(made of carbon, of course) and less space for water. So when the CO2 rise, the plants need less water. Plus, since most of the land is located on cold climate region of the planet, a hotter temperature would mean longer fertile season on a lot more cultivable surface. The arctic commercial route open the entire year, electricty bill, less death from cold temperature(the cold kill more people than the heat), etc. etc. etc.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

yeah exactly it'd actually be great if canada and russia could do more agriculture. And a big misunderstanding that people have is that the rise in temperature will somehow be really bad for people living in deserts and places already hot but the temperature mostly changes closer to the poles and the average temp at the equator is usually static so it's pretty unfounded

The_AutisticShitlord ago

It's just an hypothesis, but the rise of sea level will bring more water surface, more evaporation(fact), more rain, more flooded land and maybe less deserts. Plus, plants need less water(fact). At 1200ppm the surface was mostly tropical, but it had other factor so it's not only because of the greenhouse gas. Time will tell! Since it's economically impossible to completly stop the man made CO2 for a long time. And... I'm a leaf so I would be fucking happy to see 365 days without snow in Canada before I die!

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

ah good luck in your election and I'm always rooting for the quebec separatists, the beaver thread guy from 8/pol/ is also a leaf I'll post those threads sometime

The_AutisticShitlord ago

I'm from Quebec, however I'm not separatist(not since Lucien Bouchard left), because the separatist movement is socialist(and becoming pro immigration since Jean-Francois Lisée took the lead). GIve me a strong right wing separatist party and I may vote for them. For now I prefer a conservative party leading Canada and slowy uncucking Quebec while the federal party doesn't fuck us in the ass at the same time.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

I don't know much about it myself, but here's the beaver thread on it.