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wokeasfook ago

Eh @heygeorge why are you including me here. Just to be clear because I'm not certain what your trying to say, but I've been finding myself siding with @kevdude on this one. Are you trying to claim im part of an organised group?

I hope not. A few mods and old goats tried to shame ordinary users into getting involved in the drama. If we don't we are automatically siding with zyk and crew. I hope that's the point u are making. They are trying to shame us into supporting the sanitizing of voat.

All I've done is try to be a voice of reason. Maybe it didn't come across that way.

heygeorge ago

Are you trying to claim im part of an organised group?

No!

A few mods and old goats tried to shame ordinary users into getting involved in the drama.

No shit, I got all kinds of messages and pings trying to get me to ‘take a stand’ for ‘what is right’.

the point u are making; that they are trying to shame us into supporting the sanitizing of voat.

Yes!

All I've done is try to be a voice of reason. Maybe it didn't come across that way.

That’s my take on it.

wokeasfook ago

I haven't seen anyone explain how banning someone stops that someone from setting up a brand new account or just using an already set-up alt account. At least as it is now I know what these users are. I recognize the user names and act accordingly.

How does banning someone's username ban that person from accessing voat? As far as I can make out it doesn't. It just means they are here and we can't recognise their new username.

I don't know what can be done. But I haven't seen much constructive discussion or debate on the subject.

heygeorge ago

How does banning someone's username ban that person from accessing voat? As far as I can make out it doesn't. It just means they are here and we can't recognise their new username.

Precisely. Bans don’t work. I personally like to upvote people who are getting shit on, so long as they aren’t detracting objectively from the matter at hand. (And if I think it’s funny)

Someday, when we get the code updated and ‘packages’ are released, Voaters will have a lot more control over their personal experience. You’ll be able to, for example, subscribe to kevdude’s ‘list of dial alts’ and then every time dial posts, he’ll be flaired. (Every known alt, at least. I know for a fact kev is missing some.) You’ll probably be able to customize your own Voat experience as well, seeing who you upvote etc.

wokeasfook ago

Ah ok that's a relief. I think we're all a little defensive at the moment.

The thing is, all of this infighting isn't a disagreement about what happened (I think most of us disapprove of the behavior) but rather a disagreement about how it should be dealt with.

Perhaps we need to start a new conversation where we discuss constructively how to fairly combat certain behaviour. We should be discussing this as a community rather than bickering and turning on each other while certain people rub their hands together gleefully. Constructive conversations bring us together as a group even of we disagree and have different ideas. At least we'd be working together instead of playing directly into the hands of those who seek to destroy us.

heygeorge ago

We are on the same page here. There should be a venue for this sort of thing. Maybe a post to v/Voat? But in reality, many small conversations may be the place to be.

I think we’ll need to see how things shake out with Crensch’s alleged new project of attempting to make all ‘sbbh people’ eat crow in some way while he gleefully deletes away his feefee hurtses.