As a retired LEO, Citizens are facing more. Law Enforcement is a primarily reactionary force. Something happens to a citizen and LEO responds. If LEO is a reactionary, responding option, shouldn't the front line, the citizen, be more prepared?
You're right, Cops dont have to live next to the maniacs on a saturday night, come home obviously alone while the maniacs take note, and the cops never have to deal with the most dangerous time of all:
when the maniacs are there and you are there... and both of you are fully aware that the cops aren't there.
Eh, bizarre argument... that’s like saying the common citizen should carry more anti-fire equipment than the fire department, or that the average citizen should carry a stretcher and defibrillator to work.
I am not arguing against the 2nd amendment rights, I just think your argument is hasty and sloppy. Need a bulletproof argument - and we have that. It’s our constitution.
Should we have more than they do? Every single human being should have a better equipped fire truck? A larger hose? More resistant suit? A better, more expensive respirator and a thicker boot? Every age group? You’re missing my point and assuming I’m anti-gun, which tells me you can’t read
You should definitely be allowed to have more than they do. If you want to spend the money on a better fire truck, why should that be restricted? As you're well aware, no one here is suggesting that every single human being should have a better fire truck.
Maybe I'm just bothered by their phrasing. I think our forefathers had access to warships and cannons, and the citizenry should as well. I think we're all more or less on the same page, I'm just pedantic.
Is there not health code requiring access to AED, how many smoke alarms you should have and access to all types of alarms. You can buy as many fire extinguishers as you feel you need and in what size you want. You can purchase all the equipment a fireman has most of the equipment your first responders have. I can't purchase the same equipment the military has. In some states, you can't even purchase what your local LEO has access to. It seems like a strong enough argument.
I can stop a crime with a gun that weighs less than a pound. It is unreasonable to imagine people carrying around the means with which to fight a fire.
shouldn't the front line, the citizen, be more prepared?
I think we should have access to virtually anything. I don't think every citizen should be more prepared for heart failure than a hospital/EMS... that's silly. They're specialists in their fields. Fire departments keep special anti-fire compounds on hand... I want access to the compounds, but I don't plan to buy 'em
All the same I dont think the average citizen, even the average gun owner is equipped on par with the military. even allowing for the discrepancies in what is reasonably obtainable.
Thank you. There are more of us than you would think. Look to your Sheriff and elect the right person for the job. As a deputy, my oath was to the constitution of the USA and my State. The end. Your PD chief is serving at the behest of the mayor. FYI
Nope, quite the opposite I was reprimanded for not going with what I felt was wrong, even if it was accepted practice. Want examples? I sleep well knowing my purpose was a peacekeeper, not a law enforcer. I got into the career to help people not make their bad decisions, or make a mountain or a name for myself by creating problems. I worked part of my career in corrections as well as patrol and then the gang unit. It is a hard and challenging career that takes a special breed of person. I am sorry you have had a bad experience.
The two in my office were one for inappropriate relations with an inmate (f) and another for possession of child pornography(m). I was involved with a multi-agency gang investigation that wrapped up 6 (m) compromised prison guards.
Nope. There are more of us than you think. Good people trying to do a good job. The only time I truely feared for my safety was when I was found out I had a green light by La Eme.
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As a retired LEO, Citizens are facing more. Law Enforcement is a primarily reactionary force. Something happens to a citizen and LEO responds. If LEO is a reactionary, responding option, shouldn't the front line, the citizen, be more prepared?
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You're right, Cops dont have to live next to the maniacs on a saturday night, come home obviously alone while the maniacs take note, and the cops never have to deal with the most dangerous time of all:
when the maniacs are there and you are there... and both of you are fully aware that the cops aren't there.
22195695? ago
Yep. This exactly.
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Eh, bizarre argument... that’s like saying the common citizen should carry more anti-fire equipment than the fire department, or that the average citizen should carry a stretcher and defibrillator to work.
I am not arguing against the 2nd amendment rights, I just think your argument is hasty and sloppy. Need a bulletproof argument - and we have that. It’s our constitution.
22202934? ago
Don't worry. You don't need a fire extinguisher. Just sit around and watch it burn while waiting for the FD to show up.
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Should we have more than they do? Every single human being should have a better equipped fire truck? A larger hose? More resistant suit? A better, more expensive respirator and a thicker boot? Every age group? You’re missing my point and assuming I’m anti-gun, which tells me you can’t read
22216620? ago
You should definitely be allowed to have more than they do. If you want to spend the money on a better fire truck, why should that be restricted? As you're well aware, no one here is suggesting that every single human being should have a better fire truck.
22216675? ago
Maybe I'm just bothered by their phrasing. I think our forefathers had access to warships and cannons, and the citizenry should as well. I think we're all more or less on the same page, I'm just pedantic.
22195663? ago
Is there not health code requiring access to AED, how many smoke alarms you should have and access to all types of alarms. You can buy as many fire extinguishers as you feel you need and in what size you want. You can purchase all the equipment a fireman has most of the equipment your first responders have. I can't purchase the same equipment the military has. In some states, you can't even purchase what your local LEO has access to. It seems like a strong enough argument.
22195579? ago
I can stop a crime with a gun that weighs less than a pound. It is unreasonable to imagine people carrying around the means with which to fight a fire.
22193452? ago
Well I guess if you can show me the part of the constitutional that protects my fire equipment rights I will jump right on your shillwagon.
22193276? ago
we absolutely SHOULD have access to that equipment.
22195857? ago
I think we should have access to virtually anything. I don't think every citizen should be more prepared for heart failure than a hospital/EMS... that's silly. They're specialists in their fields. Fire departments keep special anti-fire compounds on hand... I want access to the compounds, but I don't plan to buy 'em
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All the same I dont think the average citizen, even the average gun owner is equipped on par with the military. even allowing for the discrepancies in what is reasonably obtainable.
22192567? ago
Man, give this guy a medal. Thank you for your service to your community.
22195711? ago
Thank you. There are more of us than you would think. Look to your Sheriff and elect the right person for the job. As a deputy, my oath was to the constitution of the USA and my State. The end. Your PD chief is serving at the behest of the mayor. FYI
22194964? ago
Like he hasn't ruined someones life for no reason other than that he could
22195777? ago
Nope, quite the opposite I was reprimanded for not going with what I felt was wrong, even if it was accepted practice. Want examples? I sleep well knowing my purpose was a peacekeeper, not a law enforcer. I got into the career to help people not make their bad decisions, or make a mountain or a name for myself by creating problems. I worked part of my career in corrections as well as patrol and then the gang unit. It is a hard and challenging career that takes a special breed of person. I am sorry you have had a bad experience.
22195804? ago
how many crooked cops did you bust?
22195826? ago
2 in my own office and 6 at the DOC.
22195903? ago
The two in my office were one for inappropriate relations with an inmate (f) and another for possession of child pornography(m). I was involved with a multi-agency gang investigation that wrapped up 6 (m) compromised prison guards.
22195862? ago
now I know you're lying, you would have been murdered
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Nope. There are more of us than you think. Good people trying to do a good job. The only time I truely feared for my safety was when I was found out I had a green light by La Eme.
22195984? ago
I have only ever encountered one decent human being that was an officer in all my years. The rest are either roid raging or power tripping assholes
22191971? ago
Omg the politicians around you prob couldn't wait for you to leave
22195600? ago
Ya it was fun at times. I was quite vocal.