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21724690? ago

I've always heard that the rules of the game are (((they))) must tell you what they intend to do beforehand. Of course in their twisted way, its all obscured by symbolism and hidden in movies. Its all obvious if you know what to look for, but you need the legend/key and it takes work. (((They)) count on human laziness and use that against us.

21727219? ago

I've heard it explained in this way.

What (((They))) believe is that the

goal for all of us is 'ascension' (think heaven).

There are 2 ways to achieve this. The first, and most common way is to truly be 51% good. 'good/evil' is based off of a service to others, or service to self mentality. We all get to choose as individuals.

'Good' would be 51% good as a soul. You would follow the idea that 'Service to others, is service to self'.

'Evil" follows the idea that 'Service to self, is service to others'.

Both ways of living can result in personal ascension, but only one path is considered our creators path, where as the other is the path of Satan.

Basically you can be good at being selfish and worrying about what's best for you. Focusing on what will benifit the well-being of yourself above all else.

Conversely you can trust in the Creator, and life in general and always do what is best for huminty, which in turn will be best for you.

(((They))) believe to achieve their goal of ascension they must be 99% evil. The line "It doesn't matter if you believe this to be true because (((They))) do to their very core". Is often used in some variation.

If you fall somewhere in between good and evil you get to reincarnate here and try again. This happens as many times as it's needed for you to ascend into a higher evolved, and more advanced form of consciousness.

21732940? ago

Im going to have to correct you on a couple things. 1 there are no amount of works or services to others that you can do to get you into heaven and 2. There is no reincarnation. You get one life one earth and when you die you either go to heaven if you believe in and give your life to Jesus whom bore all of our sins so that we may be righteous in his Father's sight or you dont and you go to hell. No reincarnation no purgatory.

21734770? ago

There is good evidence Jesus Christ believed in reincarnation.

21735248? ago

Is that right. Ok soo what actual scripture do you have for me that proves this.

21743669? ago

Luke 9:18-20 18And it came to pass, as he was alone praying, his disciples were with him: and he asked them, saying, Whom say the people that I am? 19They answering said, John the Baptist; but some say, Elias; and others say, that one of the old prophets is risen again. 20He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.

There’s a ton. Then you look into the differences between Pharisees and Saduccees, how the big argument was regarding reincarnation.

There’s a ton. There’s more proof that Jesus taught reincarnation than there is for the existence of hell

21744003? ago

Sorry but that Scripture you gave has nothing to do with reincarnation. I know you highlighted risen again. But thats not even close to eluding to Jesus teaching reincarnation. "Some say the prophet of old has risen again" here is a little known fact. Jesus was always the Father's son. Even at the foundation of the earth. Do you remember the story in the old Testament about the 3 that were put in the fiery furnace. They didnt burn and when they looked inside the furnace they saw 4 not three men. The 4th one was Jesus. And this was before he was actually born into this world. So no that doesn't mean reincarnation. Try again.

21745187? ago

You aren’t an educated Christian—and this isn’t an attack. When faced with biblical reincarnation Christians are ignorant because they don’t study the Bible.

Jesus Christ himself said that John the Baptist was Elijah reincarnated in Matthew 11:7-14.

Again, loads more info on reincarnation than there is for the existence of Hell.

21749173? ago

7 And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind?

8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.

9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.

10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come

Ok so verse 14 does is not literally interpreted to meant that John is elias reincarnated. You are interpreting wrong. He is saying he is like elias

Niv version 14 And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. Notice the word "the" before elias. He was not elias reincarnated but a prophet likened to elias.

No i am not ignorant of what the Bible says

21749790? ago

Ha, ok I get it. It’s hard to get through your cognitive dissonance so let’s try again with Matthew 17 and try to explain away the prophecy of Malachi that explicitly says Elijah will be reincarnated before Jesus comes back.

10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?

11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.

12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

21759856? ago

Again that Scripture says nothing or implies nothing about reincarnation.

Also Elijah was takin into heaven while he was still alive. You cant reincarnate a man that never died.

But again ill say 2 things. If reincarnation is real then there was no reason for Jesus to come and suffer to take our sins on himself. No reason for him to go to the cross and die and be Resurrected 3 days later. If we are all reincarnated and we have have to go through this life multiple times turn to Jesus be saved multiple times there is no reason for Jesus to be around there's no reason for the resurrection there's no reason for it at all because we just go through life over and over and over again. See the dilemma and the reincarnation Theory. It makes zero sense. But I will go a step further in Revelation when Jesus comes back out of heaven with the armies of heavenly host angels it says that's when the Rapture happens the first the dead in Christ will rise up out of their graves and they will have bodies again made incorruptible and then those living believing in Christ their bodies will be turned incorruptible so you telling me how if you die and your reincarnated how and why would bodies dead Souls come out of Graves and become alive again if we are reincarnated it's because we are not reincarnated now I've just proven more times that The Reincarnation theory is a lie

22010732? ago

Perhaps you are missing something extra special about Jesus. Reincarnation is not simply a shot in the dark. You have chosen you path ahead of time. The goal is to literally evolve a step closer to the creator. You are given free will as a way to allow for grow, or regress.

Is it possible that Jesus was so special, and so in tune with the creator that his path was to complete his cycle here on Earth in one try? This would lead to him evolving as a soul and unlocking the potential we all carry inside on his first try. Perhaps he was here to PROVE to us that reincarnation, however real or not, is not needed. We do not need to figure it over 50 lifetimes, but only 1.

Very few people have glimpsed into the power Jesus opened up within himself. His complete understanding of the path the creator has made available to all of us, is avaible right now. All it takes is a unbreakable relationship with God, your fellow man, unconditional love for all, and putting service to others above the petty personal needs most people seek to this very day.

Jesus was sent here as a template, but it seems many view him as an excuse to take a little less personal responsibility for thier own growth, likely seeing his vast understanding and application of Love and forgiveness to all, as an unattainable feat for a regular mortal human. This is short sighted. Everyone of us is capable of an enormous amount of godly, unconditional, manifesting ability to walk his very path of practicing the word of Love, and the action of forgiveness of all. True forgiveness, especially that of ourselves.

You have to take into account other cultures as well, and ascension beliefs/practices that are recorded and witness countless times throughout the history of all people. You cannot simply close off reincarnation to the teachings of what you believe is the full unadulterated truth of the Bible.

Have you researched the rainbow body phenom that takes place in budism? Even in Christianity they speak of a harvest to come where those who have fully embraced and practice the very actions and have tapped into the same powers within us all that guidef Jesus.

More about Jesus and your claim that it doesn't make sense to attach reincarnation to him. What if I were to say you are right, but not because reincarnation is a lie. Perhaps he completed his full cycle and achieved ascension in just one lifetime?

You may be taking some words from the Bible a little too literally. The souls of men do not rest here on Earth when you complete your journey, only flesh and bone stay Souls are freed upon death, but can also be freed while you are living.

To wrap this up, perhaps you are not giving yourself enough credit and putting too much stock in another man's actions, instead of believing in yourself fully. Maybe you too can do the very same things that Jesus himself showed us long ago that we can all.do this very moment!

Tear down the walls of deception You have built up inside of you, and free your soul from the attachments that are reliant on another man's storey to be interpreted a specific way.that can easily lead to magnificent misunderstandings! Trust in thyself.