private message sent to me:
Have you ever noticed that lots of posts in that sub have insane amounts of upvotes but only a very small number of comments as if the upvotes come from bots? I've also come across quite a few posts containing a large number of bizarre comments that use almost the exact same unique language but from several different users as they are also not legitimately coming from multiple people. Seems like reddit is targeted by bots for creating the impression that the site's users are more heavily provax than they really are. Pro-vax nonsense memes and social media post garbage make to the front page every day. Any thoughts on this? I'd make a discussion post about it but I'm lazy.
my reply:
i have been watching the vaccine debate closely for 5 years. what i saw happen was that each round of debate would go a little longer than before. so lets say the first round of debate goes A,B,C,D,E and at that point the pro-vaccine side ran out of moves/arguments at E... but then the next time that same argument would be had, ostensibly by a different user, it would go A,B,C,D,E,F,G before the pro-vaccine side ran out of arguments/moves.
so what appeared to be happening was that there was a round-table think-tank of pro-vaccine people, who would document all of our arguments, and then put them into a flow-chart like if anti-vaccine says A, then pro-vaccine rebut with B, and if anti-vaccine rebut with M, then pro-vaccine rebut with N, etc. it was the same scripted rebuttals each time you try a different anti-vaccine argument. so once they discovered a new argument that they didn't have an answer for, they would immediately stop the debate, and have a round-table on how to answer.
once they had their answer, every pro-vaccine person seems to spontaneously come up with the same scripted rebuttal the next time you deploy that anti-vaccine argument.
so i think what happened over time was that each side pushed the other side deeper down the rabbit hole of vaccines, with the anti-vaccine people already knowing what was down the rabbit hole, or at least being mentally prepared for disturbing new discoveries, and the pro-vaccine side only superficially understanding vaccines, and utterly un-prepared to face the disturbing new discoveries they found.
and, because the pro-vaxxers are all working on the same problem together, and have the same scripted answers, they are all getting a little bit more "red pilled" every day, as they try to rebut the next anti-vaccine argument
like, the pro-vaccine people are mentally prepared to debate vaccines and autism, but totally unprepared to debate vaccines and SIDS. they were prepared to rebut their own strawman arguments, but totally unprepared to rebut actual anti-vaccine arguments.
so over time, the pro-vaccine people slowly came to understand the problems with vaccines the way the anti-vaxxes understood the problems, and the pro-vaxxers knew they were screwed. they knew they couldn't keep going down these rabbit holes, dragging both anti-vaccine and pro-vaccine thinkers into the debate, and being exposed day after day, without the public "waking up" to the problems with vaccines
so they decided to try and shut down vaccine conversations all together, by labeling anything bad that is said about vaccines as "misinformation", and then pushing false narrative about a measles outbreak at disneyland, or in a jewish neighborhood, and blame it on anti-vaccine misinformation. then they push for the social media companies to crack-down on anti-vaccine misinformation, which many of them have done, and censored users and/or their anti-vaccine content
http://www.reddit.com/r/VaxxHappened
21527031? ago
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has been suing for years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBg9GfbuCtg
21526637? ago
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5ZIRL1jSFW32
21526182? ago
Here's the deal - the whole vaccine thing is to REDUCE THE POPULATION. They want to get rid of us. We all know this. Depopulation is the number one goal of the NWO. Easier to manage sheep than billions of patriots! There's this mantra that the population is too large. It's pushed by those who
a) believe they should be the only ones with 4 homes, private jets, and millions of acres of land under their control. Don't believe me? Start paying attention to those things with these fucktards.
Also b) They don't want you to think for yourself and do the math. Is Calcutta crowded? Yep. Is NYC crowded? Yep. Well then, sir, the world must be crowded. Recently a blogger posted a bizarre tweet that he couldn't make out why the landscape below his plane had all that quiltwork pattern and wondered aloud (yes really!) if that was a 'natural formation.' I recently drove through the middle of America with someone who had never been out of Florida. Intelligent person. But he was shocked at how much land there was. This is part of our problem. They must have ditched Geography for anti-vax classes.
c) Do the fucking math. We are NOT overpopulated. Some of our cities are, but we are doing fine.
Here - for your thanksgiving dinner tonight: (Shamelessly stole this idea from another anon who was quoting Rush Limbaugh...
"So, honey, are you doing math now?"
"Yes, uncle. We are doing division."
"Good. Do me a favor. Can you ask Siri how many square feet there are in Texas?"
"She says 7.5 Trillion Square Feet, Uncle..."
"Ok, good. Now ask Siri what you get when you divide one Trillion by one Billion...."
"She says 1,000 is the answer if you are in the USA*."
"Great! Now ask Siri how many people there are on earth."
"She says 7.5 Billion people, Uncle."
"Wow. That's a lot of people. Do you think we are overpopulated?"
"My teacher says we are. She says we're all going to starve to death..."
"Well isn't that lovely. So, do this for me, ask Siri what the answer is if you divide 7.5 Trillion Square Feet by 7.5 Billion."
"Siri says 1,000 square feet."
"Hmmmmmmm. So that means if you divide the entire state of Texas by 7.5 Billion people, everyone would get 1,000 square feet all to themselves. Since my home is only 1,100 square feet, that's not bad. Right?"
"Right Uncle! So if everyone moved to Texas in the entire world, the rest of the world would be empty?"
"Yep, honey. We aren't overpopulated. We are just not good at managing our populations and too many uber wealthy people think the earth is their playground and we don't matter. You know, like that old man down the street who always yells, 'GET OFF MY LAWN!'
"Uncle, wouldn't it just be easier if all those people just left the planet and left us alone?"
"From the mouth of Babes to God's ear, sweetie."
the end
thanks for coming to my TedTalk
21526057? ago
from: doglegwarrior
hey pro vaccine faggots couple interesting things.
amish dont vaccinate their kids they have less problems then the general population
japan highesr average iq for a nation outlawed the mmr vaccine... weird they have super healthy kids btw
americans cant sue vaccine companies. there is a special vaccine fund that that you go to. i couldnt make this shit up.
21525785? ago
This is a classic example of how the lame shilltards think and what they think will work. Unfortunately, it does work on the ill-informed and the low-mentality-users on Imgur. This was a post a couple of days ago. Sooooo many layers of propaganda in this one post. The responses were interesting as many of the "atta boys" were coming not only from new accounts, but were short sentences in support ... I give you Alinskyite Propaganda 101: https://files.catbox.moe/qiqgdx.png
21525954? ago
Yah, sure, we believe first of all that this was written by a 20-year old, not a room filled with Share Blue, Media Matters, Open Society "holier than thou and smarter than thou" propaganda artists. If the short paragraph were true, and the guy actually did research, he'd be even more anti vax and anti global warming (are we back to calling it that now? I thought we changed it to climate change... I can't keep up..."
Well - in case any of y'all need ammo -- here ya go:
CLIMATE CHANGE STUFF
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VACCINE STUFF
We'll start with my favorite "vaccine" -- https://files.catbox.moe/as561w.png
This from Kissinger is all anyone really needs to know https://files.catbox.moe/av8y4p.png
a funny meme on autism and vaccines - https://files.catbox.moe/78kz06.png
And some quotes for your files
Depopulation Quotes
I had real plans for my next decade and felt I'd worked hard enough to earn it. Will I really not live to see my children married? To watch the World Trade Center rise again? To read - if not indeed write - the obituaries of elderly villains like Henry Kissinger and Joseph Ratzinger?
Christopher Hitchens
Henry Kissinger is the greatest living war criminal in the world today, with the blood of millions of people in Vietnam and Cambodia and Laos and Chile and East Timor on his hands. He will never appear in a court or be behind bars.
George Galloway
The propaganda system allows the U.S. Ieadership to commit crimes without limit and with no suggestion of misbehavior or criminality; in fact, major war criminals like Henry Kissinger appear regularly on TV to comment on the crimes of the derivative butchers.
Edward S. Herman
At the highest levels of the medical cartel, vaccines are a top priority because they cause a weakening of the immune system. I know that may be hard to accept, but its true. The medical cartel, at the highest level, is not out to help people, it is out to harm them, to weaken them. To kill them. At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a man who occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me that he was well aware of this. He told me that WHO is a front for these depopulation interests
Jon Rappoport
Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries
Henry A. Kissinger
A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.
Ted Turner
The world today has 6.8 billion people...that's headed up to about 9 billion. If we do a really great job on vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 to 15 percent.
Bill Gates
The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. ...The real enemy then is humanity itself.
Aurelio Peccei
In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 per day.
Jacques Yves Cousteau
We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren't enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.
Mikhail Gorbachev
Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on Earth Today" and, "We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox
David Foreman
Another method (of depopulation) is disease infection through bio-weapons such as Ebola and AIDS, which are race targeting weapons. There is a weapon that can be put in a room where there are Black and White people, and it will kill only the Black and spare the White, because it is a genotype weapon that is designed for your genes, for your race, for your kind.
Louis Farrakhan
My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it's full complement of species, returning throughout the world.
David Foreman
In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.
Prince Philip
The one thing man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by a World Government, a New World Order.
Henry A. Kissinger
The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.
John Holdren
U.S. policy toward the third world should be one of depopulation
Henry A. Kissinger
One-fourth of humanity must be eliminated from the social body. We are in charge of God's selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death.
Barbara Marx Hubbard
The destructive one-fourth must be eliminated from the social body.
Barbara Marx Hubbard
Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people, most - than most proposals for involuntarily fertility control.
John Holdren
Show source
The drive . . . is to create a one world government ... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope . . . .
Larry McDonald
If a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full.
Bertrand Russell
In today’s world, however, the number of children in a family is a matter of profound public concern. The law regulates other highly personal matters. For example, no one may lawfully have more than one spouse at a time. Why should the law not be able to prevent a person from having more than two children?
John Holdren
We believe unbelievable progress can be made, in both inventing new vaccines and making sure they get out to all the children who need them.
Bill Gates
Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.
David Rockefeller
No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation
David Spangler
The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.
Larry McDonald
I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the cull to the size of the surplus population.
Prince Philip
What we in America call terrorists are really groups of people that reject the international system
Henry A. Kissinger
African slavery is the corner-stone of the industrial, social, and political fabric of the South; and whatever wars against it, wars against her very existence. Strike down the institution of African slavery and you reduce the South to depopulation and barbarism.
Laurence M. Keitt
The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.
Henry A. Kissinger
We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis.
David Rockefeller
Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.
David R. Brower
There is a single theme behind all our work-we must reduce population levels.
Thomas Ferguson
The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens additional possibilities for coercive fertility control. The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births.
John Holdren
21525543? ago
Just drop data. It enrages them. No need to argue, just post links to facts on government websites.
21525145? ago
reddit does this everywhere in every facet of propaganda. name the fake news narrative and they've got bots for that.
21525288? ago
thats probably why they dont outright ban me from reddit. because they know if they did i would just continue creating content elsewhere. but as long as I'm wasting my time at reddit, they can monitor and control my activities and content
see also:
We Need To Talk About Fake News ... No, The FBI did NOT raid the CDC ...
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3536932
They Are Killing Our Babies With Vaccines And Calling It SIDS - Sudden Infant Death Syndrome
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3535432
25 Rules For Effective Communication
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3533711
Is anyone skeptical of these studies that conveniently show that whatever is allegedly caused by vaccines, is actually prevented by vaccines?
https://voat.co/v/QRV/3522366