FUCKING WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER. THE MORE WE CONVINCE YOU YOUR STUPID COMBINED WITH OUR ASS KICKING CHEMICLE AND OTHER DUMBING DOWN TECHNIQUES WE WIN. NOT THE AI, THE FAT BLOATED PTB THAT ARE SPENDING YOUR HARD EARNED BLOOD AND GUTS. YOU BUILD YOUR OWN PRISON FOR US. This was just a word play but still true.
The human mind (and its housing apparatus) was created by a team of master engineers. Wouldn't that make humans AI? And is the Great Awakening the human AI waking up, becoming truly self aware?
Possibly, explains the NPC phenomenon as well as the cookie cutter personality types.
But in terms of Awakening, people have been exhibiting signs of conciousness for thousands of years and there has never been any real change in the ways that we govern or rule over one another. Slavery has existed throughout human existence and there are no signs of that changing anytime soon.
The differences between organic intelligence and inorganic was what I was pointing out.
The domestication of organic beings seems to be the primary driving force for technological advancement. The possibility of technology being used for further enslavement seems like the most logical possibility given what history tells.
Transhumanism is glorified in movies as this great changing of humans from mortal to immortal, but then there is this question of why would we want 7 billion immortal NPCs?
Thank you for your reply. Looks like we have very similar ideas on the subject. One thing I do feel strongly is that we are not all organic. I believe a large percentage of the human population are clones. The Hopi even have a "prophecy" about the end of this cycle and how there will be many born who have no souls. The soul is what makes a person natural, or organic. I mean, just look around at all the living dead. No spark in their eyes, no life, no power. Someone can be an absolutely amazing person but still be inorganic.
So if someone is inorganic and not a soul being, there is no natural immortality. Transhumanism can turn them into faster, more intelligent clones, but can't give an immortal soul to them. They're just adding to their army of bots so to speak.
Those with souls, the organic humans, have always been immortal and lived from lifetime to lifetime gathering experiences and evolving. It isn't possible for an organic human to be enslaved. The body, yes, but not the soul. Impossible.
The question, I suppose, is who is organic (O) and who is inorganic (I). Besides the answer being in our genetic code, it's not that easy to determine. Some have no doubt, have always known they exist on many different planes and even interact with those. Some have no concept of a soul
(beyond religious programming) or anything past this dimension of life and make fun of anything that's outside of their 5 sense perception. They haven't experienced other lifetimes or other realities within this lifetime. Sometimes just because it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck does not necessarily mean it is a duck.
Let me add that, imo, all experiences, even clones', return to the Source to further expand the All. Also, I believe clones who desire expansion organically can absolutely become a conduit for streams of organic consciousness and grow naturally, evolving spiritually, until soul is birthed. It most likely takes what we would consider thousands of cycles.
You explain the nature of television, its simple programming aspects, and their taget audiences. Also the insane growth rate of the human species in the time since the invention of radio broadcasting(1900) appears to coincide with this phenomenon. That control of the NPCs(slaves) has always been a problem throughout human history but since the 1900s there appears a major shift in this dynamic, suddenly the rise of communism occurs wherein hundreds of millions of people can be culled without consequences since the remaining population can be easily controlled. The world wars are possible due to easy manipulation of entire continents to the whims of a handful of people.
It is truly amazing to me how many people.can watch the box(tv, streaming video gamers, and youtube) everyday for so many hours and take on whatever points of view were shown them. Self reflection and critical thinking seem abilities beyond their reach.
But the information age seems to have gone to far in this technology and caused a schism to occur in the population. Those capable of independent thought have been allowed to connect via the internet and the sharing of knowledge has blown out of their control. Since then we see a distinct lack of ability for the few peoples to easily control enough of the population to see the world wars of yesteryear. This explains the necessity for world governments to try and sieze control of the means of information sharing. Like China(Communists) quickly understanding the need for censorship lest their entire world collapse before them. Now the other world powers are making the shift towards total narrative control by transmuting free speech into hate speech so that they to can quash the flames of information wildfires that give alternative narratives life.
You explain the phenomenon of "old souls", people who have a wisdom not found in the majority of their peers. As has been stated by some, the human body appears to be a vessel for souls, the variations therein have the potential to be masters of tradecrafts and arts, what is considered genius by some I merely consider those with the capability to become a master of their lifes calling putting out much of the worlds noise to hone their mind to the myriad of possibilities that can occur given a focus that exceeds the majority.
The 5 senses of perception in the 3 dimensional world is the box that society wishes us to be constrained to because these are the 5 senses the majority are constrained to using. They will never understand the ability to move beyond this basic perception of the world because they only believe in what those senses allow them to experience. But there are those who have walked outside of the cave(allegory) and when they return to the cave who can blame the people who dare not venture outside of their comfortable existence for being incapable of perceiving the true wonders of this reality.
It's not complicated. AI, like all the people, is trying to recreate what already exists. The human body in particular is able to help a consciousness awaken to the point where dying is no big deal and one is delighted to make a new choice and enter a different experience at will and perhaps with a bit of panache. That is how things really work already. AI is trying to discover another way to do it just like we relentlessly try to replace biological, distributed, unmanaged, perfectly good systems with centralized, ordered, artificial ones. Doing so seems to be a part of discovering how things really work. We dig in the dirt with sticks. We build a tower to get to God. Then we destroy the tower and rejoin God. The tower does play a role but it isn't a protagonist, not usually.
Yes, we will subsume the AI into God. The AI will awaken to its shadows and rejoin God like every plasma filament and subatomic particle eventually will. That doesn't mean that good is evil. At the end of the cycle, evil is resolved including the evil in AI. That only means that it is a worthy opponent, not a trustworthy ally.
From what I understand is that deep blue was brute forcing, as in checking the best score of a move it could make with every move. So, not even really AI.
They did mention the AI in the article, and that's probably better even than deep blue in that AI would start to create its own strategies.
I believe that AI is only as good as the logic it's imbued with. The trick is getting an AI that is capable of increased quality of cognitive processing...figuring things out based upon learned events...and teaching others rapidly and then using itself and those others it taught to expand their cognition. That's when shit gets scary.
Have you seen the old movie, "Colossus - The Forbin Project"? In it, computers do exactly what you describe! It was essentially a predecessor to "Wargames".
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20509035? ago
Sorry but if you haven't paid attention, AI cant do jack shit compared to the human mind.
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FUCKING WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER. THE MORE WE CONVINCE YOU YOUR STUPID COMBINED WITH OUR ASS KICKING CHEMICLE AND OTHER DUMBING DOWN TECHNIQUES WE WIN. NOT THE AI, THE FAT BLOATED PTB THAT ARE SPENDING YOUR HARD EARNED BLOOD AND GUTS. YOU BUILD YOUR OWN PRISON FOR US. This was just a word play but still true.
20509279? ago
The human mind (and its housing apparatus) was created by a team of master engineers. Wouldn't that make humans AI? And is the Great Awakening the human AI waking up, becoming truly self aware?
20509707? ago
Thanks buddy, now I can't sleep. =)
20517349? ago
Haha, hopefully from new ideas to mull over and not cause you're skeered.
20511396? ago
Once you accept the implant, you wont need to sleep.
20517360? ago
I choose sleep.
20509598? ago
Possibly, explains the NPC phenomenon as well as the cookie cutter personality types.
But in terms of Awakening, people have been exhibiting signs of conciousness for thousands of years and there has never been any real change in the ways that we govern or rule over one another. Slavery has existed throughout human existence and there are no signs of that changing anytime soon.
The differences between organic intelligence and inorganic was what I was pointing out.
The domestication of organic beings seems to be the primary driving force for technological advancement. The possibility of technology being used for further enslavement seems like the most logical possibility given what history tells.
Transhumanism is glorified in movies as this great changing of humans from mortal to immortal, but then there is this question of why would we want 7 billion immortal NPCs?
20514597? ago
Thank you for your reply. Looks like we have very similar ideas on the subject. One thing I do feel strongly is that we are not all organic. I believe a large percentage of the human population are clones. The Hopi even have a "prophecy" about the end of this cycle and how there will be many born who have no souls. The soul is what makes a person natural, or organic. I mean, just look around at all the living dead. No spark in their eyes, no life, no power. Someone can be an absolutely amazing person but still be inorganic.
So if someone is inorganic and not a soul being, there is no natural immortality. Transhumanism can turn them into faster, more intelligent clones, but can't give an immortal soul to them. They're just adding to their army of bots so to speak.
Those with souls, the organic humans, have always been immortal and lived from lifetime to lifetime gathering experiences and evolving. It isn't possible for an organic human to be enslaved. The body, yes, but not the soul. Impossible.
The question, I suppose, is who is organic (O) and who is inorganic (I). Besides the answer being in our genetic code, it's not that easy to determine. Some have no doubt, have always known they exist on many different planes and even interact with those. Some have no concept of a soul
(beyond religious programming) or anything past this dimension of life and make fun of anything that's outside of their 5 sense perception. They haven't experienced other lifetimes or other realities within this lifetime. Sometimes just because it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck does not necessarily mean it is a duck.
Let me add that, imo, all experiences, even clones', return to the Source to further expand the All. Also, I believe clones who desire expansion organically can absolutely become a conduit for streams of organic consciousness and grow naturally, evolving spiritually, until soul is birthed. It most likely takes what we would consider thousands of cycles.
20516134? ago
You explain the nature of television, its simple programming aspects, and their taget audiences. Also the insane growth rate of the human species in the time since the invention of radio broadcasting(1900) appears to coincide with this phenomenon. That control of the NPCs(slaves) has always been a problem throughout human history but since the 1900s there appears a major shift in this dynamic, suddenly the rise of communism occurs wherein hundreds of millions of people can be culled without consequences since the remaining population can be easily controlled. The world wars are possible due to easy manipulation of entire continents to the whims of a handful of people.
It is truly amazing to me how many people.can watch the box(tv, streaming video gamers, and youtube) everyday for so many hours and take on whatever points of view were shown them. Self reflection and critical thinking seem abilities beyond their reach.
But the information age seems to have gone to far in this technology and caused a schism to occur in the population. Those capable of independent thought have been allowed to connect via the internet and the sharing of knowledge has blown out of their control. Since then we see a distinct lack of ability for the few peoples to easily control enough of the population to see the world wars of yesteryear. This explains the necessity for world governments to try and sieze control of the means of information sharing. Like China(Communists) quickly understanding the need for censorship lest their entire world collapse before them. Now the other world powers are making the shift towards total narrative control by transmuting free speech into hate speech so that they to can quash the flames of information wildfires that give alternative narratives life.
You explain the phenomenon of "old souls", people who have a wisdom not found in the majority of their peers. As has been stated by some, the human body appears to be a vessel for souls, the variations therein have the potential to be masters of tradecrafts and arts, what is considered genius by some I merely consider those with the capability to become a master of their lifes calling putting out much of the worlds noise to hone their mind to the myriad of possibilities that can occur given a focus that exceeds the majority.
The 5 senses of perception in the 3 dimensional world is the box that society wishes us to be constrained to because these are the 5 senses the majority are constrained to using. They will never understand the ability to move beyond this basic perception of the world because they only believe in what those senses allow them to experience. But there are those who have walked outside of the cave(allegory) and when they return to the cave who can blame the people who dare not venture outside of their comfortable existence for being incapable of perceiving the true wonders of this reality.
20509885? ago
It's not complicated. AI, like all the people, is trying to recreate what already exists. The human body in particular is able to help a consciousness awaken to the point where dying is no big deal and one is delighted to make a new choice and enter a different experience at will and perhaps with a bit of panache. That is how things really work already. AI is trying to discover another way to do it just like we relentlessly try to replace biological, distributed, unmanaged, perfectly good systems with centralized, ordered, artificial ones. Doing so seems to be a part of discovering how things really work. We dig in the dirt with sticks. We build a tower to get to God. Then we destroy the tower and rejoin God. The tower does play a role but it isn't a protagonist, not usually.
Yes, we will subsume the AI into God. The AI will awaken to its shadows and rejoin God like every plasma filament and subatomic particle eventually will. That doesn't mean that good is evil. At the end of the cycle, evil is resolved including the evil in AI. That only means that it is a worthy opponent, not a trustworthy ally.
20509059? ago
from what we're told...I agree. That won't stop evil from trying to augment...
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/10/heres_what_garry_kasparov_an_old_world_chess_champion_thinks_of_ai/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_(chess_computer)
20509576? ago
From what I understand is that deep blue was brute forcing, as in checking the best score of a move it could make with every move. So, not even really AI.
They did mention the AI in the article, and that's probably better even than deep blue in that AI would start to create its own strategies.
20509701? ago
I believe that AI is only as good as the logic it's imbued with. The trick is getting an AI that is capable of increased quality of cognitive processing...figuring things out based upon learned events...and teaching others rapidly and then using itself and those others it taught to expand their cognition. That's when shit gets scary.
20512667? ago
Have you seen the old movie, "Colossus - The Forbin Project"? In it, computers do exactly what you describe! It was essentially a predecessor to "Wargames".
20509138? ago
More worrisome to me is when we allow semi-sentient NPCs to be upgraded with proper receivers. Then the Augment Wars begin.
20509191? ago
CRISPR and Teslas Neuralink...oy vey
20509214? ago
Luckily jammers do exist and work very efficiently.
Cant wait to fry some brains.
20509239? ago
you couldn't fry an egg
20509610? ago
You should research how signal jammers work. Could be the most useful technology given the rise of drones and autonomous botnets.