FLDS are 100% child traffickers. Research the "Lost Boys", teen boys that get kicked out of the polygamist communities on trumped up charges due to the older men not wanting to compete for the women.
What do you expect us to do? Storm their compounds? They are excommunicated and disassociated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They are disavowed as apostates. That's as far as the Church's earthly authority permits.
The rest is a matter for law enforcement officials, with whom we fully cooperate.
Yes, we do expect the authorities to storm their compounds and remove children from a situation where they are being raped and molested. Many who have escaped the compounds have reported the physical, sexual, and mental abuse that goes on there. Why are the compounds protected? Who is protecting them? Authorities who agree with or don't exactly object to what goes on there.
In terms of religion and the way it was founded, I have way more respect for the FLDS by sticking to their principles than the cult-lite of Utah PR bullshit LDS sellout disguised as revelation.
Then you don't understand the doctrine. FLDS and RLDS doctrine has very little similarity to the founding principles of the Church. They've changed it to suit their purposes. It's the exact opposite of "sticking to their principles."
We've altered our application of the Gospel of Christ over the years as societal changes necessitate, but the principles have not and will not budge.
You need to learn how to be intellectually honest for once in your life. Dropped down to 2 hours on Sundays for church instead of 3. Lowered the age of missions to 18 for boys and 19 for girls. Sister Missionaries can now wear pants!!! WOW!! I'm sold. SUCH REVELATION!! Literally just changed the Endowment....AGAIN! I'm shocked...I'm not. Removed the penalties, changed the washings and anointings, initiatory work, no more adamic language in the prayer circle, hell, there is not an ordinance in the Temple you clowns HAVEN'T changed, maybe baptisms for the dead. Your church is a joke. It's NOTHING BUT CHANGE. Eternal and endless be his name...but never gets it right the first time.. Don't even get me started on your Wentworth Letter and the edits put in to create your articles of faith.
You CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, IT'S NOT THE SAME! What's next? Sprinkling at baptism???
You don't have time to teach me, as well you can't, for I have forgotten more about your religion than you will ever learn.
Nah, you Googled stuff and believed what you read. Everything you've listed is an example of application, not doctrine. Except the parts that are not true.
To paraphrase a great man, anti-Mormons know so much that isn't so.
You sure are getting worked up over this. Why so mad? Just curious.
Fuck off with "application". You have zero power in your priesthood. Your prophet, seers, and revelators don't. You have lower health rates in your hospitals even with your priests and missionaries offering blessings nonstop as compared to other hospitals. Reconcile that.
Your JST's literally contradict places in your book of Mormon. You were racist up until 1978. Research "Aunt Jane Austen Manning".
Why did Joseph bang Fanny Alger in 1831 and the polygamy revelation showed up 1836? Reconcile that... you can't.
You couldn't cure a ham with your "so-called" priesthood.
Research your Lamanite project.. trying to turn Native American children WHITE by taking them off the reservation and putting them with Mormon families. You can't make this shit up!
But you do you, but as you keep sending your naive youth out to propagandized for two years, you will get your asses called out.
Well, yeah, you can. People have been doing it for a long time. There's a pretty good library of anti-Mormon fiction out there by now. That's what happens when Satan wages war. Truth will prevail in the end, regardless whether you or I get mad.
Please, keep throwing out invective. I'm having a ball! You're actually getting more angry than most anti-Mormons I've dealt with. It's fascinating. It definitely proves that you're trying to prove something to yourself. I'm just curious to find out what that is.
I can answer it all. It's not worth the effort because you aren't here to learn, you're here to argue and insult. That's not the kind of discussion I'm interested in.
So be cause a group broke off taking select beliefs and practices to go-it on their own, that indicts the original beliefs and the main group? Isn’t that how most Christian religions came to be - as “protesting” Catholicism? You’re logic needs some help anon. And please define “cult” for us. That is a pretty weak attack to use against a mainstream, world-wide Christian religion.
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15893580? ago
FLDS are 100% child traffickers. Research the "Lost Boys", teen boys that get kicked out of the polygamist communities on trumped up charges due to the older men not wanting to compete for the women.
15896582? ago
FLDS, I totally agree with you. There is a lot of evil there.
They are in no way affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
15898672? ago
No way affiliated? Being a Break off and practicing the cult as originally intended isn't "affiliated"?
If there is a problem with your fundamentalists, there is a problem with your fundamentals.
15903492? ago
What do you expect us to do? Storm their compounds? They are excommunicated and disassociated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They are disavowed as apostates. That's as far as the Church's earthly authority permits.
The rest is a matter for law enforcement officials, with whom we fully cooperate.
15921713? ago
Yes, we do expect the authorities to storm their compounds and remove children from a situation where they are being raped and molested. Many who have escaped the compounds have reported the physical, sexual, and mental abuse that goes on there. Why are the compounds protected? Who is protecting them? Authorities who agree with or don't exactly object to what goes on there.
15922122? ago
Authorities, sure. Go for it. I'll be a cheerleader.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has no such authority. Our punitive options end at excommunication.
15904162? ago
In terms of religion and the way it was founded, I have way more respect for the FLDS by sticking to their principles than the cult-lite of Utah PR bullshit LDS sellout disguised as revelation.
But it's all shit.
15904486? ago
Then you don't understand the doctrine. FLDS and RLDS doctrine has very little similarity to the founding principles of the Church. They've changed it to suit their purposes. It's the exact opposite of "sticking to their principles."
We've altered our application of the Gospel of Christ over the years as societal changes necessitate, but the principles have not and will not budge.
15909993? ago
Changed it!? YOU are the ones who change on a dime. D&C 132! My god this is mental gymnastics.
You do understand Joseph Smith had 34+ wives, 11 of which were already married when he married them? Who changed the doctrine? Not the FLDS.
15910194? ago
You need to learn more. I don't have the time today to teach you.
15911049? ago
You need to learn how to be intellectually honest for once in your life. Dropped down to 2 hours on Sundays for church instead of 3. Lowered the age of missions to 18 for boys and 19 for girls. Sister Missionaries can now wear pants!!! WOW!! I'm sold. SUCH REVELATION!! Literally just changed the Endowment....AGAIN! I'm shocked...I'm not. Removed the penalties, changed the washings and anointings, initiatory work, no more adamic language in the prayer circle, hell, there is not an ordinance in the Temple you clowns HAVEN'T changed, maybe baptisms for the dead. Your church is a joke. It's NOTHING BUT CHANGE. Eternal and endless be his name...but never gets it right the first time.. Don't even get me started on your Wentworth Letter and the edits put in to create your articles of faith.
You CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, IT'S NOT THE SAME! What's next? Sprinkling at baptism???
You don't have time to teach me, as well you can't, for I have forgotten more about your religion than you will ever learn.
15911562? ago
Nah, you Googled stuff and believed what you read. Everything you've listed is an example of application, not doctrine. Except the parts that are not true.
To paraphrase a great man, anti-Mormons know so much that isn't so.
You sure are getting worked up over this. Why so mad? Just curious.
15912649? ago
Fuck off with "application". You have zero power in your priesthood. Your prophet, seers, and revelators don't. You have lower health rates in your hospitals even with your priests and missionaries offering blessings nonstop as compared to other hospitals. Reconcile that.
Your JST's literally contradict places in your book of Mormon. You were racist up until 1978. Research "Aunt Jane Austen Manning".
Why did Joseph bang Fanny Alger in 1831 and the polygamy revelation showed up 1836? Reconcile that... you can't.
You couldn't cure a ham with your "so-called" priesthood.
Research your Lamanite project.. trying to turn Native American children WHITE by taking them off the reservation and putting them with Mormon families. You can't make this shit up!
But you do you, but as you keep sending your naive youth out to propagandized for two years, you will get your asses called out.
15913194? ago
You didn't answer my question.
Well, yeah, you can. People have been doing it for a long time. There's a pretty good library of anti-Mormon fiction out there by now. That's what happens when Satan wages war. Truth will prevail in the end, regardless whether you or I get mad.
Please, keep throwing out invective. I'm having a ball! You're actually getting more angry than most anti-Mormons I've dealt with. It's fascinating. It definitely proves that you're trying to prove something to yourself. I'm just curious to find out what that is.
15917128? ago
fiction...
Fuck you. You can't answer a single thing you hubristic motherfucker.
Oh God hear the words of my mouth..lowers arms repeats 3 times This faggot is truly a faggot.
15921946? ago
I can answer it all. It's not worth the effort because you aren't here to learn, you're here to argue and insult. That's not the kind of discussion I'm interested in.
But you're not boring! Got any more?
15922359? ago
Would you like some tokens? Priesthood signs? The Sun? Sure sign of the nail? Power upon you and your posterity?
You can buy anything in this world with money. Have you any money?
15923011? ago
Ooh, nice. You know how to use Google.
More! I want to know what else Google says
15899175? ago
So be cause a group broke off taking select beliefs and practices to go-it on their own, that indicts the original beliefs and the main group? Isn’t that how most Christian religions came to be - as “protesting” Catholicism? You’re logic needs some help anon. And please define “cult” for us. That is a pretty weak attack to use against a mainstream, world-wide Christian religion.
15899287? ago
Mainstream... ok.
You can buy anything in this world with money, have you any money?
15903452? ago
We have sufficient for our needs.