For those of you who feel impatient, waiting for indictments to kick in on a large scale, for those arrests to finally happen - here is what I recommend: take a few days off from all media, including Q drops and Q boards. Take a mental break and do what you normally do, what keeps you occupied. Don't talk about Q with anyone. Just keep to yourself. Then come back a few days later and you will see how quickly changes are happening/shifting to obliterate the DS. You can't see the hurricane from the inside out after all. The media narrative is changing in almost imperceptible, minute ways against the establishment/status quo, seemingly unrelated arrests are being made and so on - but you need distance to connect those dots from the bird's eye view since the DS web is so vast.
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15426049? ago
Maybe you should go one step further, take a permanent break from Q and try being a productive member of society for once.
Q has been going for over a year and it's produced nothing except failed predictions and batshit crazy conspiracy theories.
Trump isn't some great heroic figure battling a shadowy evil cabal. He is a deeply flawed, unpopular and divisive President who has 2 long years of investigations and legislative paralysis ahead of him. Stop worshipping him already.
Q is nothing more than a 4/8 chan fantasy LARP which you fell into because you're gullible and weak. Ask yourself, what happened to the mass arrests? Deportations? Martial law? Mueller working secretly with Trump? Red tsunami? 11/11? 12/5? None of Qs promises have come true because it's all fake.
Now to ahead and call me a shill because I dared to criticise your precious cult. Just like scientology. Or parrot thought-silencing cliches like "timelines change" and "disinformation is necessary", like every cult ever.
15426476? ago
Criticism is fair, but maybe YOU should go one step further, and do some actual research. What will you say when arrests do happen and the world changes?
If you can't see that things are happening (on a global scale, not just USA) then you're just being willfully ignorant. I don't trust Q 100%, but there is an insane amount of factual information out there that lines up extremely well with the topics Q discusses. I've been studying these things for years, and am far from gullible, weak, or an idiot. I'm not ready to discount Q as a LARP just yet, but there are some folks that do follow it blindly like a cult and the ever-moving goalposts are seriously frustrating.
15426950? ago
I appreciate you taking the time to reply without just screaming "shill" or "trust the plan" like a retard. That immediately puts you above everyone else on Voat.
Asking "what will you say when..." is a bit vague surely? I could say the same thing about aliens, the apocalypse, or any other conspiracy theory/millenerian movement. Yes of course if it does happen you will look very smart and I will look stupid. But based on the evidence we have to date and Qs many failures then it is reasonable to conclude it wont happen and that's the point.
I would appreciate it if you could provide the key global events and factual information which prove Q is real. My suspicion is that these will be tenuous connections, vague retconning and coincidences (and remember that correlation is not causation). But I am keen to hear these and see the evidence you put forward.
Saying I should do "actual research" has become a familiar Q argument. But it seems that for many Q believers "research" really means watching YouTube videos and reading far-right blogs and fake news. I should add that I'm a professionally trained researcher myself (PhD modern history).
15429881? ago
I work in architecture, but I'm not an architect. Many architects are only capable of dreaming stuff up while having no idea how things actually work. That's where I come in. I'm the technical guy behind the scenes that turn those dreams into buildable projects. My creativity is limited, but I'm great at taking someone else's idea and refining/improving it. Also, I love solving puzzles, and in my experience, you can't always see the big picture until all the little pieces are in place. That being said,,,
To me, the whole Q phenomenon is like a giant puzzle. You can't just take one piece of it and say "see, there's the proof!", at least... not yet. Alternatively, I feel one would also be foolish to discredit the whole thing because some "predictions" didn't come true. Understand this - if Q is real, we are witnessing what is possibly the biggest game of spy vs. spy ever conducted, and disinformation would absolutely be necessary to confuse the enemy. Similarly, as the "deep state" reacts to Q's actions, they are fully capable of taking their own actions that could force a different timeline of events while Q is still holding true to an overall "plan". I'm not claiming any of these things are true, just trying to explain the reasoning behind the cliches.
Is there one specific thing I can point you to that will convince you Q is real? Probably not. Can I point you in a certain direction that you can take to help decide for yourself? Absolutely. Check out this 609-page PDF of Q proofs and start digging. It's full of interesting stuff and really helps put the pieces together. In particular, page 3 has a ton of links for websites offering proof of Q. The biggest proof for me is the level of inside access Q seems to have to Trump and the administration. There are things Q has posted that would basically be impossible for anyone not having access to pull off.
For me, research does include videos and blogs, but it also takes a fair amount of discernment to wade through all the biased crap (from all sides) and harvest the valuable "information nuggets". Beyond that, I vastly prefer source materials over heavily opinionated articles. There's way too many folks out there just scanning the headlines before moving along. Often, publishers release articles where the headline says one thing, and then waaaaaaaaay down in the 24th paragraph, there will be a statement that completely contradicts the headline, but most people don't get that far.
Typically, government websites are good, like the Dept. of Justice news page. This link is mostly propaganda free, as it informs us of actual events happening in the legal realm, which affects us all, regardless of political leanings. There has been a massive uptick in arrests and convictions related to human trafficking and corruption since Trump took office. I don't think AG Sessions was as "sleepy" as many folks like to claim.
Personally, I believe all MSM is nothing more than propaganda and it targets both "sides". It is constantly shoved down our throats to confirm our personal biases and keep us divided. If the lot of us were ever to combine forces and go after the real enemy (those who govern/control us), we might actually be able to make some serious improvements to our world.
I firmly believe Trump is doing his best to "drain the swamp", but he has serious resistance coming from both sides of "the establishment" as well as a huge portion of the media and Hollywood. Is he just a part of it all? Possibly, but he's been saying the same things about this country for decades. 1980 Interview 1988 Interview. Also, the simple fact that he is the target of so many attacks from all sides tells me he is not necessarily part of the "club", but has likely learned how to navigate and negotiate within their circles to achieve his goals. The biggest mistake people make is underestimating him. He is not well-spoken like a typical politician or academic, but that doesn't mean he's not a genius. There are different types of genius, and his lies within the realms of business, finance, and strategy. Many like to tout his failures, but how else do you learn if you don't try?
Anyway, unless somebody out there has a functioning crystal ball, we'll all just have to wait and see what develops. For now, all I can do is suggest that people keep an open mind, never trust the media, and try to detach emotion from their decision-making process. It's only when you remove the "blinders of bias" that you're able to find the truth. There are forces at work that want nothing more than to enslave humanity for their own personal gain, and will go through any lengths to achieve it.