Q is an alien. He is psychic and has knowledge of highly advanced alien technology. Q is not from planet Earth. I have no evidence to support my claim. Is there any chance that this is true? Im not saying I believe this, more of a gauging of responses and a consensus on the probability.
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15213674? ago
There you go. The evil bloodlines are Canaanites. Many call themselves "Jews". Liars and deceivers......
15213685? ago
And Canaanites descend from Cain. Who descends from the Devil.
15213886? ago
So you're saying that a serpent, whatever creature that was, mated with Eve and a "serpent-man" was born, named Cain.
So, how does an ape, for instance, mate with a human? You're saying that's possible. And that that should produce an ape-man. Or, how about a cow or a dog to produce a cow-man or a dog-man.
15213906? ago
you tell me. Where did those bloodlines go? Human Angel hybrids.
15214563? ago
You're mixing up two things. The progeny of the sons of God (angels (messengers)) were Nephilim or giants. The 13 bloodlines from Caannan, see any giants roaming around?
15214686? ago
Angels(aliens)
15214885? ago
Angels: spiritual beings
"Inter dimensional beings" if you'd like.
"Aliens" is not in the vocabulary of God.
Can cause some confusion introducing words and concepts invented by men.
It is quite like Eve, adding, omitting and changing.... Causes confusion. Confusion is of the devil.
15214904? ago
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
15215001? ago
"Her seed".
You do know women don't have seed, no? It is obviously figurative. And a prophecy. Do you understand what is prophesied?
15215089? ago
Let's consider the first element of the Lord God's response, the enmity between the serpent and woman. If we reason with a "tooth for tooth" rationale, a consequence relating to the nature of the relationship the serpent would henceforth have with the woman implies that the causative offense relates to the nature of the relationship the serpent previously had with her. Is this making sense? The word "enmity" means "hatred" or "hostility." What kind of offense is suggested in contrast? Here's a list of antonyms for "enmity": "love, friendship, affection, harmony, warmth, goodwill, friendliness, amity, cordiality, geniality" Is there a hint of association with either "light snack" or "sex orgy" versions? Perhaps the serpent was just being the nice guy, a cordial ambassador of goodwill like the official Garden of Eden "Welcome Wagon" rep when he beguiled Eve, offering her a shiny red magical apple? No, that just doesn't work. He was lying, deceiving, laying a snare for her. Friends don't do that. What if his relationship towards Eve (because this is his consequence, not Eve's) was more extreme, more passionate. Certainly, hostility and hatred can be intensely passionate, right? We must add to the list of relationship words the more extreme "lust" and "passionate desire." Now we can begin to perceive some judicial logic in the consequence. According to certain legends of the Jews, Lucifer lusted after Eve. He coveted her for his own. The judgment that is the enmity between the serpent and the woman speaks to this probability. With such an understanding as this, we have a validating continuity when later we find testimony about the sons of god lusting after and taking the daughters of men to wife. The "apple" does not fall far from the Tree. But let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Many see in this a messianic prophecy that will play out until what is written in Revelation 20:10 is fulfilled and the devil is thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone. We see in the context how this seed of hers is immediately linked to the "he" of the bruisings. We perceive in it a prophecy about a conception that occurred when a young virgin of the lineage of Judah was accepting of being overshadowed by the Holy Spirit and who subsequently brought forth the Messiah. We perceive the bruising of His heel as a betrayal, beating and then a crucifixion on a hillside East of Jerusalem. We understand the enmity as existing between the antichrist and Christ. This is very profound, yet, more is implied!
While the brains of those of us schooled in Babylon might habitually snap into auto-pilot and fly something resembling the pattern I just described, let's focus our attention on the matter of "your seed." This address to the serpent in response to what had just happened in the Garden pertains to his seed. If we restrain ourselves from making the big theological leap into the future and consider the context we leave when we make that jump we find ourselves seeing the matter in a light we may never have seen before. Serpent seed? Why bring the matter of seed up to the serpent if all he had done is trick the woman and man into disobedience with a light snack from a forbidden tree? How does that make sense? Should this make sense? I think so! It does if the activity in the Garden was procreative because the figurative usage of seed is about progeny, and progeny is brought forth by acts of procreation! The serpent's seed is mentioned because he had just sired offspring with the woman and this horrific situation was being addressed. This makes sense.
The implication is that the woman was pregnant. While carrying the serpent's seed, she conceived again, with Adam. In due season these children were delivered, Cain first then Abel, and daughters too. There was enmity between the serpent's seed, Cain, and the woman's seed, Abel, as promised. The enmity or hatred was so passionate that Cain murdered Abel.
15215390? ago
Fanciful.
Correct regarding the promised seed of the woman. The overshadowing was the impregnation of the woman with the perfect seed, producing the Christ child, the second Adam, he of perfect, pure blood.
Correct regarding the bruising. Well done!
Genesis 4:7 "IF thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him."
This spoken to the "progeny of the enemy" as you suppose.
"Shalt thou not be accepted..."
Appears that acceptance of the "devil seed" was available. How can that be? The child of the devil is the enemy. Hated.
15215454? ago
Just because Cain was fathered by Satan doesnt mean God didn't give him his fair chance at doing right in life. So Christs blood needed to be pure HUMAN blood and not of the corrupted lineage created by Satan in the garden. It was an attempt to prevent the birth of Christ by polluting the bloodline. The flood almost got them all. Naamah.
15215649? ago
Your logic's falling apart. How is it that the devil's seed has any hope of doing right in life? That's absurd.
Pure evil spawns a creature that is not man. What do you think pure evil produces? A pure evil creature. I don't believe God would waste time giving pure evil a chance at doing right in life. That would be impossible, no? Pure evil doing right, that is.
ALL progeny of Adam were fallen creatures, including Cain and Abel. All of us with a fallen or sin nature. All of us capable of allowing sin (the ways of the devil, the adversary, the enemy) to hold regnancy in our lives. This is what Cain allowed and chose. He had a choice to master sin, or allow it to master him. He let sin hold regnancy, manifested by murdering his brother. In this manner, he is the seed of the serpent, a child of Satan. And yet, quite still redeemable. With repentance. That's what God offered. That's what Cain rejected.
15215809? ago
My logic is still intact. Your belief is what's keeping you from accepting it. Cain was part Human and part fallen Angel(alien). By no means does that make him unable to be righteous. Ironically though, he was quite wicked. More from the Bible... You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
John 8:44
15216122? ago
Again, your logic falls apart. Why would God destroy the alien- human hybrids in the flood if they had the potential to be righteous? That would be rather unrighteous on God's part, no?
"Ye are of your father the devil, (by choice)
"And the lust of your father ye will do (by choice)
Then it goes on to explain the nature of the father and his ways that they have chosen.
And, in contrast, Christ explains what is the truth. Which they refuse to hear having given themselves wholly over to evil.
So then those dudes project and claim Christ has a devil spirit.
In fact, the devil spirits had entered into these wicked Jews.
You do know about the satanic rituals the elite bloodlines perform on their progeny, no? This is a process of inviting in satanic spirits. Children of the devil in this fashion. Seed of the serpent.
As the new birth involves an implanting of spiritual seed, an assurance of eternal life, so too the accepting of Satan's spiritual seed ensures an eternal destruction. These are the children of wrath....
15216180? ago
And the physical seed that Satan planted in the belly of Eve. That started the bloodline the Devil tried to stop the birth of Christ with. The bloodline continues for a reason. I shall explain...
15216519? ago
There was no need for Christ before the fall. That couldn't possibly have been the motive for Satan in beguiling Eve.
15216899? ago
So you're saying Satan couldn't of possessed knowledge beyond our understanding. And let's not forget that Satan always wanted to be like God. So he too wanted to create a race to populate the Earth.
15217123? ago
Lucifer, the Bright and Morning Star, was a created being. Being a creation of God, he had not the full knowledge of God. Iniquity was found in him as he desired to be the MOST HIGH. And he got his ass kicked out of God's grace. In the rebellion the creation was destroyed. God restored the heaven and earth and created man to rule over the new digs. Satan wasn't pleased that this dirt creation had rule over his former domain. That's why he intervened and fucked with man. Satan had no ability to procreate before his fall, nor after. Nothing in scripture indicates that spiritual beings can reproduce. The angels in heaven neither marry nor are given in marriage.....
15217192? ago
Wait - what? Daughters were born to men? Oh, I get it, It's a figure of speech. :) Am I being silly? Well, ok, but my point is that it's a good practice to acknowledge when figures are being used because they are used purposefully in the scriptures. They should give us pause to consider what's being called to our attention. When we follow through in this context we discover the Hebrew text making the point that the daughters taken for wives are of the stock of Adam and Eve, pedigreed, if you will. This made them fair, beautiful, and particularly attractive to the sons of god, the angels who left their former estate according to Jude. These sons of god are also referred to as "Watchers," according to Enoch.
You see, the word for "men" in the Hebrew of verse 1 is singular and appears with the article, so "men" is more accurately, "the Adam." (See Bullinger's Companion Bible notes or his Appendix 14.) So, when men began to multiply, the offspring in view are specifically "the Adam" kind. Yes, in contrast to the serpent kind, of the Cain branch. Why would the "the Adam" be explicitly identified if there was no alternate kind? When verse 1 declares that daughters were born to "them," it points to Adam and Eve. In verse 2, the word "men" is as in verse 1, so the daughters of men are the daughters of "the Adam."
The sons of god preferred the daughters of Adam and Eve over the daughters of Cain, who were already the corrupted seed of the serpent.
Cain was the son of the serpent. If not, none of this activity that led to the judgment of the flood has any precedent and we see no logical continuity in this development of the biblical narrative of history.
If you consider what qualified Noah and his family for salvation you find that his just behavior was only part of the qualification. Verse 9 declares that "Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations," meaning, genetically pure. He had the right pedigree, being of the Lord God through Adam and Eve without mixture. Anyone who reads Genesis 6 can see that judgment was related to the sons of god taking the daughters of men to wife, who populated the earth with their wicked offspring. These angelic beings who left their former estate had procreative ability, and procreate they did with the pedigreed daughters of Adam. The time came when the limit of this mixture with the Serpent's seed was reached and drastic measures were called for. Intervention came at the appointed time. The last of the just Adamic race was preserved as seed to repopulate the earth while the wicked flesh progeny of the serpent through Cain and the Watchers were purged from the face of the ground.
After the flood (Genesis 9), the Lord God promised He would never again destroy the earth by water, and he set the rainbow in the cloud as a sign of that covenant. Yet, He never promised the earth wouldn't be destroyed by other means.
15221811? ago
Okay then. Don't disagree that the sons of God were angelic beings. Don't disagree that the daughters of the Adam were of Adam and Eve. Where I'll disagree is that the daughters of men did not include those born in the line of Cain. For Cain was of the Adamic line. You say Cain was a child of the devil.
Let's look at Bullinger. Specifically Appendix 23. "This irruption of angels was Satan's FIRST attempt to prevent the coming of the Seed of the woman foretold in Gen 3:15." I agree with Bullinger here: first attempt. Which makes sense as Satan only became aware of God's plan when revealed in Genesis 3:15.
Also, if as you contend, Cain was the child of Satan, the bloodline of Adam had already been contaminated 50:50 good: evil, what need for an irruption of angels to accomplish what had already been done?
No question Noah was pure in his genetics. The reason for the flood was clear.
When were the angels created?
Is the angels' habitation a spiritual realm?
Were angels created with the ability to procreate with men? (Before men were even created)?
Are there any female angels? (No indication of that). Why would God give procreative abilities to angels that could not be utilized except with the daughters of men? "They neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like the angels in heaven."
I'll follow with more. What say you?
15222205? ago
The Devil's main motivation in fathering Cain was that he was jealous of God and wanted to be like Him who is the most high. Satan wanted to create a race that would populate the Earth as well. He fooled Eve into sleeping with him and fathered Cain in his attempt.
The angels existed before the creation of man. They were with God in heaven before God created Earth and man. Satan was a fallen Angel himself and was cast out of heaven for trying to lead a rebellion against God. Satan wanted to be the HNIC. All the angels that sided with him also became part of the fallen angel crew.
As for the Nephilim being Satan's FIRST attempt to prevent the birth of Christ through contamination of the human bloodline, the answer lies in his motive for encouraging pro-creation. His original motive was to be like He who is the most high. His motive then switched to preventing the birth of Christ.
The angels(aliens) descended from the heavens(outer space). Is outer space a spiritual realm or did they all just come from another planet?
As for your quote "They neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like the angels in heaven" all I can say is look at this passage from scripture that clearly uses the word "marriage". Genesis 6:1-8 New International Version (NIV) 6 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with[a] humans forever, for they are mortal[b]; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.” Here is the same passage from the KJV. Genesis 6:1-8 King James Version (KJV) 6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Clearly you see the word "wives" at the end, and I do not know another reason to call them that other than a marriage taking place.
Lastly I will reiterate what was stated above about the fallen angels laying with the daughters of man... You see, the word for "men" in the Hebrew of verse 1 is singular and appears with the article, so "men" is more accurately, "the Adam." (See Bullinger's Companion Bible notes or his Appendix 14.) So, when men began to multiply, the offspring in view are specifically "the Adam" kind. Yes, in contrast to the serpent kind, of the Cain branch. Why would the "the Adam" be explicitly identified if there was no alternate kind? When verse 1 declares that daughters were born to "them," it points to Adam and Eve. In verse 2, the word "men" is as in verse 1, so the daughters of men are the daughters of "the Adam."
15225119? ago
Can't get around: "And Adam knew his wife, and she conceived..." Doesn't say she conceived a second time.
"...and bare Cain...." by this conception upon Adam knowing Eve.
"... and said, I have gotten a man from Jehovah"
You say Eve is referring to Satan here. If you can site any other verse where Satan, Lucifer, the Devil is called or referred to by the name Jehovah, you might make your point that Satan sired Cain.
Satan=The Serpent= Jehovah????
The name Cain means acquisition. "I have gotten an acquisition from Jehovah." This according to "be fruitful and multiply".
God is Light. God is Spirit. Reconcile. The Light is unapproachable by man. Impossible. How then does God "access" the physical realm He created. The image of God is Spirit. God is Spirit. The Spirit is the Light in concretion, so to speak.
All things must be understood with spiritual understanding. This understanding only comes from God, which is the Light in Spirit "form". That is the greatness of the new birth. The receiving of holy spirit. A spirit connection with God. A restoration of what Adam lost in the fall. Albeit in an imperfect, sinful flesh. Adam lost the eternal spirit, the image of God, in the fall. Thus, death entered. "Thou shalt surely die."
The sons of God, spiritual beings, the angels, had not physical bodies. And yet, they came into the daughters of men, physical bodies, and engendered children. How can this be? It makes no sense that God gave them procreative abilities, but not amongst the angels, for we know of no female angels. Did God impart a sex drive within the angels? The lust of the flesh in a spiritual being? We know the angels had the ability to rebel which infers a freedom to choose. But, how do you attribute the lusts and desires of the carnal mind to the angels? We know the angels had joy. But, joy is not an "emotion". It is a spiritual matter of the heart. We know certain angels may manifest in the appearance of men. (They don't have wings. Lol).
Perhaps the angels that left their first estate, entered into men, "devil spirits" entering in and taking the place reserved for the Spirit which had been vacated due to the fall of Adam. Through the eyes of man and through their lusts the spirits that left their own habitation and entered the habitation of men took unto them wives...... Through this means the genetics were altered and eventually giants born unto men. As we see the Canaanites in our day and time, invite and encourage devil spirits to enter in, so too in the days of Noah. And, likely, Cain was the instrument the devil used to corrupt men's mind to this unholy interaction with the angels of the rebellion.
15226246? ago
I also mentioned this while were on the subject. And all this talk about the book of revelation and Johns vision of the end of days and whether or not we are in them and can we stop the one world government and blah blah blah. If we're going to get Biblical lets get nuts again. Q is the Anti-Christ. You're all fooled into thinking you're following the good guy and you're really just helping Trump and Q insert the one world government that is prophesied in the book of revelation by John. Q is the Mark of Cain because it was an ancient letter. Some people theorize it was a letter that Cain bore as his marking. So y the fuck not? Q is an alien and the anti-Christ because he is descended from the satanic bloodline started by Lucifer himself in eves belly.
15227318? ago
Too much reptilian youtube programming for you. Think "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers". It's a much closer reality as to how angels might mate with women. Your theory that God is an alien and Satan his alien archenemy and they both planted their seed on the planet has it's roots in pagan mystery religion. Babylonian theology that elevates Satan. "Chariots of the Gods" nonsense. It is not biblically supported. You try, but it simply doesn't fit withe the narrative of the book. It is a spiritual book written for spiritual eyes and understood spiritually. God is not a man. Nor was Christ Jesus God. God-men or alien reptilian hybrid men concepts are lies of the serpent. He's a pompous ass. As if he could sire children of his own. Pfffft. But, you've done a good job of trying to interpret scripture to fit your narrative. It's persuasive. I've heard it all before. Many times. But, it simply doesn't fit. It is error.Even Bullinger, who did great work, has to rely on Greek and Roman myths legends to try to support the concept of angels mating with women. That's a little suspect.....
Q could be working toward those ends. Could be a great deception. Is Q an "alien"? Too much Star Trek programming for you.
15227455? ago
So the Genesis passage is just wrong. Genesis 6:1-8 King James Version (KJV) 6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
Or your conditioning and what you have come to believe has closed the door on you accepting the reality of the situation. If God, a spiritual being, can father a child, then why can't other spiritual beings father children? Why don't you question the lust and human emotion side of things when it comes to the immaculate conception?
15227796? ago
Already answered that one. You're blinded to that truth apparently. I'll try again. "Jesus Christ our promised seed." Look it up. It's in the book.
God CREATED the seed, the sperm, with which Mary was impregnated. The promised seed of the woman.
Do you think God just spewed a whole bunch of sperm in Mary and hoped for the best?
Perfect seed, perfect sperm formed in Mary's womb and impregnated her. It was a virgin conception. No alien came down and fucked her.
Nature laws were not violated. Although a miraculous conception occurred.
Other spiritual beings cannot create. It's that simple. Only God creates.
God is not a "being". God is Light. God is Spirit. Notice it doesn't say God is A spirit.
15228160? ago
It's really kind of amusing to see how much people defend their beliefs. They do not want their worldview to collapse and have to admit that they could be wrong after all this time. All that energy commited to a belief that is most definitely unprovable. At the quantum level of physics everything is energy. What that energy is depends on the pattern of its vibration. Electrons are energy. Protons are energy. Atoms are energy. Your fingernail is energy. Your physical brain waves(thoughts) are energy. Those thoughts have a physical consequence on the world around you. The dirt is energy. Oxygen is energy. Light is energy. Energy is everywhere and comprises everything. E=mc2. The relative state of energy depends on the speed at which it travels. In the beginning the Lord said let there be light. Are you saying that he created himself in the beginning? Was there a giant explosion that emitted this light? Since you seem to have all the answers to a topic that is clearly faith based, I was hoping you could help me out with those two questions as well.
15228714? ago
All you speak of is of the physical realm.
And while all is energy,as you say, as we attempt to identify and quantify and define our reality, it is nothing more than the physical creation. And quite frankly, you haven't proven shit. You BELIEVE in a theory of things. And yet you rail on those that BELIEVE in God.
You worship the creation more than the Creator. But, that's your business.
God is.
There's the answer to your two questions.
15229103? ago
It's amazing you have come to the conclusion I don't believe in God since my interpretation of a book written by light doesn't align with yours.
15229193? ago
Fair enough.
Tell me a little about the God in which you believe...
15229308? ago
I feel like I've already done enough of that throughout this thread and this one linked here https://voat.co/v/QRV/2871553. Read all the comments in both threads for a deeper understanding of my beliefs. I hope you enjoy it.