I have been tracking 2 craft flying from Cleveland and although one plane has NO call sign...the other has a little info...flying from Cleveland to Oakland. They are above the 40k limit for commercial jets. Is it normal for them to fly so close....only 25ft between them at times. I am new to watching them with radar but have observed for years in the sky as I live under a direct flight path.
15097900? ago
Military aircraft fly in close formations sometimes for tactical reasons like presenting a small radar reflection so as to hide the number of aircraft or to overcome communications jamming by getting antennas close together.
15098199? ago
Thank you ...I'm learning :) Appreciate all info.
15089195? ago
The 2 planes have dropped to around 28k...I bet POTUS is getting a good look at the fire damage...that is his purpose in going to CA. Almost there.
15088758? ago
aerial refueling, or incorrect data reporting
15088689? ago
Trump is headed to California today to view the damage from fires
15088240? ago
Software error.
15088180? ago
I saw that yesterday too. Both aircraft said same altitude but right on top of the other one.
15088179? ago
Mating ritual. The plane at the higher elevation will mount the bottom plane and they will couple in mid-air. If the male plane's seed fertilizes an egg, there will be little baby Piper Cubs after an eight month gestation period.
That's how new planes are made.
Read a fucking book, you stupid son of a bitch!
15090607? ago
Oooh yeah, Spread those cargo doors baby
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15089504? ago
I've watched planes refuel in the air. It's amusing and amazing. I actually have a picture of it somewhere.
15089639? ago
Yeah, that's just aeronautical foreplay. Planes have no shame and will do everything in public.
15089676? ago
QUIT SLUT SHAMING PLANES!
15089809? ago
Sure... Next thing you know, we'll have Cessna on Cessna marriage! God hates homo-planes!
15089846? ago
If God hated homo-planes he would not have created them to be as such!
15090148? ago
Heathen! Next thing I know, you'll be saying it's okay for an ultralight to identify as an A-10 Warhog!
That's an abomination!
15090163? ago
They can choose what they identify as you bigot!
15090202? ago
Damned right, my ailerons are hard-right rudder!
(This might be the most amusing line of conversation I'm gonna have all day!)
15090315? ago
Sounds misogynistic!!!!
(Figure that'd be an argument liberals would have when they no longer have any idea what is being talked about anymore).
15090431? ago
Of course it's misogyny. Planes with sticks are just better. That's fact!
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15088192? ago
I bet @clamhurt_legbeard will find that amusing.
15088228? ago
hahaha awesome
15088258? ago
LOL I like to think I bring the funny.
15088309? ago
a baby fighter jet cries for food
15088393? ago
That's the runt of the litter, probably! Poor little fella.
15088165? ago
They were both flabbergasted at seeing the 2nd sun and incoming planets.
15088026? ago
Not a plane fag, but could one be flying in the slip-stream of the other to conserve fuel? That's why geese fly in a "V" formation.
15088133? ago
Maybe...but they have been together from the start...I am leaning towards this is POTUS and protection. One is frequently underneath the the other and not behind. I watch Nascar and understand what you are saying...makes sense :)
15096906? ago
Not fast enough.. gotta eat more vagasil to make myself dumber..
15092885? ago
Your Nascar reference reminded me of a funny story from my youth. I was in a crew driving from Toronto to the north shore of Lake Superior in a big old Suburban and a little Toyota driven by a race car driver. The Toyota tailgated us the entire journey. The driver of the Suburban got pissed off and demanded to know what the Toyota thought he was doing. He told us that he was conserving fuel.
15096088? ago
Lol.. It's so true though...people stay close to semis for the same reason..esp over a long trip.
15087896? ago
A link to a theory that Cali is being lasered - actual video of homes burning from the inside...
If true, we would need to get the white hats to Cali to stop it
15087700? ago
Putin hid the fighter jets underneath passenger planes going into syria a few years back, took all the western nations by surprise at the time because they never caught on until all the jets were in place, This is in no way related of course but it is a tatic thats used to hide the movement of fighter jets.
15087801? ago
That's interesting... I am sure there is a reason for this incident too... def. not a fluke. They will arrive at their destination soon and hopefully without incident. I am new to watching planes via radar so it's all an education. Thanks :)
15087384? ago
40k is NOT the limit for commercial jets, it’s just that most are usually too heavy to climb that high. I’ve seen SowWest and other at 42-43k. It’s a 2 ship prolly military one turns off the transponder so that the controllers don’t get traffic caution alerts constantly.
15087426? ago
Good info...thanks :) I had read ...from Q I believe that above 40k was classified air space... Yes I hope they are military...makes sense.
15089041? ago
Military has carte blanche above 60k & doesn't have to communicate with ATC above that. Have a buddy that's been ATC for a long time, they can see them on radar above 60k, but often don't know what it is, or who. Often very strange things going on up there. Many commercial and corp jets can get to 50-51k. Concorde used to go to 60k.
15089218? ago
So are commercial and private free to use any airspace below 60k?
15089727? ago
They are within the direction of ATC & also have to respect certain no-fly zones.
15087337? ago
Possible sneak or practice sneak. Day ain't easy
15087300? ago
To hide under the transponder of the other aircraft? Make it appear that the 2nd blib is a radar echo.
15087340? ago
I have 3 sources up and only 1 shows them both....I think you are correct...the plane with no call sign is hidden on the other 2 sources. I hope it's white hats. They are almost to Loveland CO.
15087751? ago
I have adsbexchange.com up right now. POTUS in route to California. Lots of interesting planes aloft today. AWACS in UTAH. E6B mobile command planes. Interesting.
15087903? ago
The 2 I am watching just crossed into Utah...must be the same. I will watch his twitter and see what's shakin'.
15087373? ago
If it's in the air, it's a friendly. We own the skies... and Space.