I was under the impression from Q that the NSA is monitoring and recording ALL forms of communication. Well, maybe not smoke signals and the like, but all forms of communication using 'modern' technology.
Sure, but because there's so much raw data, one has to do something awfully suspicious in order to collect the gaze of actual people at the NSA. Legal precedent must be satisfied. There's just too much data.
The Average person doesn't even need to worry about the NSA. They hoard everything, and I mean everything. So it's impossible for human eyes to see it all. Like this Anon just said, "one has to do something awfully suspicious in order to collect the gaze of actual people at the NSA."
Unlike the IC, the NSA is military has an actual job to do that keeps them constantly preoccupied. They don't have time to go snooping around in the Database for your sex tapes and dick pics. So long as we keep the NSA "well weeded" and tighten up some of the "loose ends" in protocol once this is all over that the cabal intentionally loosened, "we the people" have nothing to fear from it, honestly.
It's the intelligence community ABC's that I worry about. They don't exactly have the best track record of giving any fucks about us.
The average person doesn't need to worry about the NSA
The NSA hoards every single piece of data out there
Pick one and only one.
I do find it kind of funny that Q and Americans bitch and fucking whine about other countries spying on them, all while they still have the NSA. Pot, meet kettle.
You're missing the point. Barring tech illogical advances which the public has yet to be made privy of, there's so much raw data sitting in all of these bases in Utah and other places that someone has to have specific intentions with someone that's really made a name for themselves in order to sow through all of the layers of data which more or less conceals your average person.
The NSA most likely has a profile for every US Citizen and we could make the case with ease that that's also simply expanded to likely half the world's population.
What most seem to overlook is that we're at the point with this technology that the east way to conceal one's self is to either fit in or flood the data collection point. That's to say that the sheer amount of data out there makes for easy concealment in that scowering the levels of data in cases like these takes so much time without advanced AI currently being hidden from public eye, should it even exist, that it's hardly ever even worth it.
Just how many people like the special autists on deep chans do you think are out there? How likely is it that any significant number of them exist? From that, how many of them do you think are willing to work with data collection agencies, let alone federal intelligence arms of government? Funny thing is, MILINT has specifically come to these autists for help, which is why we're all here in the first place. These are the only kinds of people that are candidates for such a task, and instead of going after your average Joe, they're being used to take down high profile targets and dismantle world wide corruption agents and organizations.
The difficulty of parsing the data isn't really the point.
That's like saying "well I commited SO MUCH financial fraud and took the details of SO MANY bank accounts that honestly the odds of me even stealing anything from your bank account is tiny. Why worry lol".
Simple : because it was acquired illegally.
The NSA breached the privacy of every US citizen, and every single citizen worldwide - all while Q, acting presumably as part of them (or a closely related org), bitches like a fucking child about Americans getting spied on.
Is the irony not palpable?
Also worth noting all this 'totally impossible to sort through data' is somewhat easier to store (at least, in partial format), and can then be sifted through later. Also worth noting, the mechanisms to sort and parse the data increase year by year, and the NSA sure as fuck isn't about to give up its tasty little stranglehold on hard coded backdoors and snooper programs.
They're criminals, and hypocrites. That point is really beyond dispute (way, way beyond dispute, outside of brainlet people who can't accept people they like do bad things). So why, exactly, should people not worry about them?
Why would you presume a group willing to break the law, lie about it, and then bitch at others for doing the self-same thing they did (demonstrating a huge lack of self-reflection) shouldn't be worried about?
If you've gathered that I'm insistent that we shouldn't worry about it, you're entirely wrong. What fucking anon wouldn't worry about privacy?
I was under the impression we were discussing logistics of parsing said data, and actually taking the time to dig through all of it. Do they have AI sorting all of it so it's in organized little trees of info? Fuck no. That's more or less the only point I'm making here.
Even if I did say we shouldn't worry about it, that was utterly untrue.
Fair enough - it didn't seem the most immediate argument to me in your piece, but I can buy that you'd be concerned about the privacy risks too.
I do mostly agree they don't have a general AI sorting and classifying their data, but with regards to smaller, more specialist systems? I suspect their systems are pretty great, if not approaching the kind of ability that most people might perceive to be those only achievable with "an AI".
My point is not who they're targeting now, it is how they behave, and how they so casually demonstrate their deep seated hypocrisy.
i'm not so sure what your point was, if you began with "you're missing the point", and appear to be finishing here with saying you too believe their invasion of privacy is a huge concern, and they clearly have access to enough data to easily carry out harm on a global scale, unless it's mere quibbling about the precise mechanisms and ability they have to parse their data, which whilst currently somewhat limited are also clearly already so far advanced any kind of quibbling about it feels a bit like debating whether the gun pointed at your head is a 9mm or a 44 magnum.
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14952149? ago
I was under the impression from Q that the NSA is monitoring and recording ALL forms of communication. Well, maybe not smoke signals and the like, but all forms of communication using 'modern' technology.
14952597? ago
Sure, but because there's so much raw data, one has to do something awfully suspicious in order to collect the gaze of actual people at the NSA. Legal precedent must be satisfied. There's just too much data.
14952821? ago
^ This.
The Average person doesn't even need to worry about the NSA. They hoard everything, and I mean everything. So it's impossible for human eyes to see it all. Like this Anon just said, "one has to do something awfully suspicious in order to collect the gaze of actual people at the NSA."
Unlike the IC, the NSA is military has an actual job to do that keeps them constantly preoccupied. They don't have time to go snooping around in the Database for your sex tapes and dick pics. So long as we keep the NSA "well weeded" and tighten up some of the "loose ends" in protocol once this is all over that the cabal intentionally loosened, "we the people" have nothing to fear from it, honestly.
It's the intelligence community ABC's that I worry about. They don't exactly have the best track record of giving any fucks about us.
14953165? ago
The average person doesn't need to worry about the NSA
The NSA hoards every single piece of data out there
Pick one and only one.
I do find it kind of funny that Q and Americans bitch and fucking whine about other countries spying on them, all while they still have the NSA. Pot, meet kettle.
14955333? ago
You're missing the point. Barring tech illogical advances which the public has yet to be made privy of, there's so much raw data sitting in all of these bases in Utah and other places that someone has to have specific intentions with someone that's really made a name for themselves in order to sow through all of the layers of data which more or less conceals your average person.
The NSA most likely has a profile for every US Citizen and we could make the case with ease that that's also simply expanded to likely half the world's population.
What most seem to overlook is that we're at the point with this technology that the east way to conceal one's self is to either fit in or flood the data collection point. That's to say that the sheer amount of data out there makes for easy concealment in that scowering the levels of data in cases like these takes so much time without advanced AI currently being hidden from public eye, should it even exist, that it's hardly ever even worth it.
Just how many people like the special autists on deep chans do you think are out there? How likely is it that any significant number of them exist? From that, how many of them do you think are willing to work with data collection agencies, let alone federal intelligence arms of government? Funny thing is, MILINT has specifically come to these autists for help, which is why we're all here in the first place. These are the only kinds of people that are candidates for such a task, and instead of going after your average Joe, they're being used to take down high profile targets and dismantle world wide corruption agents and organizations.
14963574? ago
The difficulty of parsing the data isn't really the point.
That's like saying "well I commited SO MUCH financial fraud and took the details of SO MANY bank accounts that honestly the odds of me even stealing anything from your bank account is tiny. Why worry lol".
Simple : because it was acquired illegally.
The NSA breached the privacy of every US citizen, and every single citizen worldwide - all while Q, acting presumably as part of them (or a closely related org), bitches like a fucking child about Americans getting spied on.
Is the irony not palpable?
Also worth noting all this 'totally impossible to sort through data' is somewhat easier to store (at least, in partial format), and can then be sifted through later. Also worth noting, the mechanisms to sort and parse the data increase year by year, and the NSA sure as fuck isn't about to give up its tasty little stranglehold on hard coded backdoors and snooper programs.
They're criminals, and hypocrites. That point is really beyond dispute (way, way beyond dispute, outside of brainlet people who can't accept people they like do bad things). So why, exactly, should people not worry about them?
Why would you presume a group willing to break the law, lie about it, and then bitch at others for doing the self-same thing they did (demonstrating a huge lack of self-reflection) shouldn't be worried about?
14965156? ago
If you've gathered that I'm insistent that we shouldn't worry about it, you're entirely wrong. What fucking anon wouldn't worry about privacy?
I was under the impression we were discussing logistics of parsing said data, and actually taking the time to dig through all of it. Do they have AI sorting all of it so it's in organized little trees of info? Fuck no. That's more or less the only point I'm making here.
Even if I did say we shouldn't worry about it, that was utterly untrue.
14965595? ago
Fair enough - it didn't seem the most immediate argument to me in your piece, but I can buy that you'd be concerned about the privacy risks too.
I do mostly agree they don't have a general AI sorting and classifying their data, but with regards to smaller, more specialist systems? I suspect their systems are pretty great, if not approaching the kind of ability that most people might perceive to be those only achievable with "an AI".
My point is not who they're targeting now, it is how they behave, and how they so casually demonstrate their deep seated hypocrisy.
i'm not so sure what your point was, if you began with "you're missing the point", and appear to be finishing here with saying you too believe their invasion of privacy is a huge concern, and they clearly have access to enough data to easily carry out harm on a global scale, unless it's mere quibbling about the precise mechanisms and ability they have to parse their data, which whilst currently somewhat limited are also clearly already so far advanced any kind of quibbling about it feels a bit like debating whether the gun pointed at your head is a 9mm or a 44 magnum.
14966977? ago
Like I said, I thought we were just discussing logistics.
Seems we have nothing to disagree over at this point.