Q claims that the whole reason we discovered that the N.S.A. had been spying on normal Americans is that the C.I.A. leaked it to destroy the credibility of the N.S.A. and get them defunded and/or removed. This was in retaliation of the N.S.A. discovering that the C.I.A. has been behind pedophile rings around the world supplying children and using it as mass blackmail and brownstone operations in order to film politicians and other people of interest to rape children. Edward Snowden was never even an N.S.A. agent but a C.I.A. agent.
""The battle between the CIA and the NSA became public again when the CIA set up a sting that uncovered that Cisco Systems, a DARPA company, has built-in back doors on all their routers so that the NSA can spy undetected. The main stream media was even given videos of Cisco employees installing the backdoors in routers. The CIA found out about the back doors and made the information public to stop the NSA’s hacking of the CIA systems.”
https:// www. linkedin.com/pulse/three-factions-cia-control-world-covert-fvey-alliance-michael-holt/ (Voat says banned domain for some reason so just copy and paste the link)
"The NSA has the global surveillance capabilities to intercept all the DNC and Podesta emails. CIA is college grads only and has the traditions of the urban yankee northeastern and east coast ivy leaguers, “Blue State”, liberals. CIA hacks and has a cyber capability too according to VP Joe Biden. What if the NSA leaked the emails to Wikileaks to help Trump? What if the CIA discovered NSA was leakin emails? What would they go and do about it? Go to the FBI? Go public? What if they ain’t able to go public because they themselves are in violation of some domestic law? Enter the shadow brokers. I rekon the shadow brokers is CIA.What if the shadow brokers incident is CIA tit-for-tat retribution against NSA email leaks? Hack or steal NSA tools? Embarrass them? Get them broken up, fired? Sounds far fetched? Clapper and Carter tried to get Rogers fired. They also called for the breakup of NSA."
""In retaliation against the NSA, the CIA chose Edward Snowden, who was working for the CIA through Booz Allen Hamilton, to release stolen NSA documents that proved the NSA was illegally spying on Americans through computers, phones, and many other electronic devices. Snowden didn’t work for the NSA and did not have access to NSA files though he released a huge amount of data that confirmed the NSA’s surveillance. Michael Alperovitch’s CIA handlers ordered Snowden to turn over the NSA’s PKI encryption codes so that the CIA could enter the NSA’s system and steal the files needed to prove the NSA’s illegal surveillance. Snowden did not personally have access to those codes nor the information in the NSA system as part of his job."
https://medium.com/@CleetusBocefus/new-theory-shadow-brokers-incident-is-a-deep-state-civil-war-between-cia-vs-nsa-3fdc2bdec59b
If this is true, the N.S.A. are at war with the C.I.A. Do we have whitehats with the N.S.A. and the F.B.I.? I know the F.B.I. vs C.I.A. rivalry has been spoken about on these forums and even written about in media.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge:_The_Secret_War_between_the_FBI_and_CIA
Since the C.I.A. gets International status they can just tell the F.B.I. to cease investigations and that they have no jurisdiction. I know for sure the C.I.A. is only a quasi government agency. They are the ones creating these pedophile brownstoning rings. Operation Mockingbird, Operation Paperclip, MKUltra these are all C.I.A. operations. Could this "government agency" actually be rogue and the U.S. Government in a secret civil war? Lamplight brought the topic of but if someone can help find the original Q post that would be great.
Lamplight mentioned it here:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2415622/12037259
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2415622/12037220
Remember when people said they actually saw a flash and something explode over the skies of Hawaii?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_b4SZ-BjE
It was said Military and Intelligence officials working with us thwarted what would of been the worst terrorist attack on American Soil ever seen. I want to know who these whitehats are. I'm wondering if that's the N.S.A.? Would make sense since they have more authority than the F.B.I. does and besides the mass spying that came up we don't hear of these atrocities and trafficking rings selling children and drugs occurring within the N.S.A. we hear them coming out of the C.I.A. I think the C.I.A. has so much dirt on the rest of the government it's essentially holding them hostage and is completely rogue. Two C.I.A. whistleblowers have come out saying what they have did.
Robert Steele says is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=demrKHR0TY4
Kevin Shipp says it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjknH9ZlN8U
All three were C.I.A. agents who admit it.
Rumors have been going on a full shootout apparently happened in Lower Manhattan between N.S.A. and C.I.A. agents when the C.I.A. tried to raid an N.S.A. secure operation site.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2199.htm
http://drwilliammount.blogspot.com/2017/01/cia-attacks-nsa-in-manhattan.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBdwOCMSCAw
This being the location:
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/16/the-nsas-spy-hub-in-new-york-hidden-in-plain-sight/
So is there a civil war going on within the U.S. Government with the C.I.A. having gone rogue?
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14828331? ago
The winter Soldier - Add alphabet agencies as you see fit.
CIA is Hydra
14814278? ago
Excellent post - thanks!
14813287? ago
Dear everyone who is calling for consolidation or liquidation of the agencies: Bad idea.
The only reason we had a fighting chance was because factions within the agencies fought back. If you consolidate every agency into one monolithic agency, it becomes harder to fight back. If you liquidate the agencies, crime in the private sector will automatically get worse as foreign powers roll right over our sovereignty with private companies.
Bureaucracy is both a blessing and a curse. For us, now, it has been a blessing. The Cabal would LOVE to abolish or consolidate the entire government into a monolith. That's how the PRC operates. That's how the USSR operated (AND STILL OPERATES). That's how all Communist regimes operate.
14813207? ago
Important to remember in 2013 Trump went on Oreilly and called for the execution of Edward Snowden.
I'm still not going to fully believe Snowden is a bad guy until I see some high level arrests, but I'm open to the idea now. I've thought of Snowden as a hero for a long time now, and remember the Snowden story floating around Libertarian circles before it hit the mainstream. One of the first times I got the news before the news from the Ron Paul people. They told me about Bitcoin in 2010 too.
14812810? ago
Fantastic list of links here, OP. Excellent work, sir.
14812003? ago
I can point to a time when the CIA was "rogue" in my opinion. However, it cleaned up later. I joked with my friend boy scout that he went over to the Dark side and became a Sith Lord and he said. "I don't think so." That's when I had the most faith ever in the organization. His word was as good as gold. He was a good man. He died at 42-43 in an op gone bad I assume. It was right around the time many operatives were exposed and I can only imagine that was it since it was "on duty".
The spooks aren't all clean, but many are on the up and up, You just gotta know which ones to trust. That can be hard int he world of double meanings, secret friendships, lies on the lips of pretty women to get secrets, and being told to do things you would never do in any other situation...and may be not still. I trusted boy scout with my life...many times.
I'm not certain about if I would many now. The old guard is gone and the new crop seems corrupted. Sith Lords.
Aye, there is a section that is the elite Freemasonry unit. but they all were child sacrifices.
14811911? ago
if you watch kevin shipp's videos, he draws charts to explain that it is WAY BEYOND CIA, NSA, & FBI... I mean he listed so many "organizations" that my jaw dropped. There had to be around 30-50 that he laid out on this weird little corrupt family tree.
14811848? ago
Yes. I believe that's what we're actually watching play out- a secret civil war between two, possible three, intelligence agencies.
14811424? ago
The NSA and all of it's data is what Q and Trump are using to spy on the deepstate. So in a way, i like it, but on the other hand it sucks knowing that we have no privacy. And normies be like "i have nothing to hide, go ahead and spy on me".
14810772? ago
Remember one of the first things Trump did was go visit the CIA. He stood in front of 'the wall' and gave a speech to a rousing crowd. I always figured that going there first was a good sign that he was going to face the biggest problem head on.
14812523? ago
he also made Pompeo the CIA director which in hindsight was done to probably spy on CIA
14810742? ago
Nice post, great work!
14810673? ago
thanks for the post !
14810575? ago
For proper context, you need to think a bit wider: the CIA, from it's inception, was intended as extra-governmental agency. It is essentially the intelligence and military arm of Freemasonry (and their superiors). The CIA is interested in the infiltration of all government agencies and the governments of other countries as a means of power and influence. There has never been a time when it was not "rogue".
14812527? ago
don't forget Nazis.
14811287? ago
Bingo. Exactly right.
14810542? ago
This is a cluster f*ck. And the American people are being screwed. All of these alphabet intelligence agencies need to be consolidated.
14810466? ago
CIA is absolutely rogue. N.Korea was their puppet and an attempt to acquire Nuclear weapons. The cabal was using it to attempt to become and independent world power that controlled nukes. Iran too.
14810243? ago
Great post. I am most fascinated to learn what becomes of [ES]. Q was breaking his balls pretty seriously. Talking about combing his hair, having eyes on him 24x7, taking him out whenever.
Those are definitely fightin' words!
14813221? ago
Being honest though if I found out Snowden was killed and Podesta and Clinton were still out raping kids I'd be pretty damn pissed and start to question Q very seriously.
I'm not going to believe 100% that Snowden is a bad guy until the truth about Podesta, Alefantis, Luzzatto, and the rest comes out. If they kill Snowden and let them walk Q could very well be a psyop for more Government control.
14810168? ago
Look at the University Endowments....Many Professors are corrupted by this craziness...Stop the Insanity ! Close the Sharia Schools TODAY !
14810148? ago
Some stuff i cant prove: cia stands for central intelligence agency, but central to what? Europe. With a headquarters in switzerland. Not even an american institution. The cia has active agents, its own army, navy, and air force. Nsa does not.
14810133? ago
They better start focusing on this Islamic Evangelical Apologists and get their act together FAST cause Colin Kapernik was just one dumb girl...They have more garbage coming. Maxine Waters & CAIR is just the TIP of the ICEBERG if they can't get their differences settled.
Come on Folks Get the GARBAGE OUT OF YOUR RANKS !
14810078? ago
Everyone knows how our relationship with Iran went south because of a failed CIA Op
NSA has done a lot of dumb things too
Competition is good but they need to start working together and get the democrats out their ranks and the socialists got to get out of these agencies ! Look at all the stuff project veritas has shown. I'm sure it is much worse than what the public sees.
14810001? ago
They're both deep state violators of the 4th amendment. Traitors.
14810000? ago
Ya know in the Military the Army and Navy give each other a hard time and the Marines give the Army & Navy a hard time and the Air Force just watches them fight, but on game day everyone fights and works together.
The Hat people have been so divisive to each other and America and everyone in the Military knows that the quality of the intel from those guys is usually just junk.
If they don't start working better with each other and clean up their practices and getting better results for America, Do we even need to bring up ThinThread? Also the FBI can work better with the DEA and Border Agencies they have improved some but there is much more they can do. The recent acts and disasters like FEMA and States during the last few Hurricanes should be the template on how to work together.
NSA & CIA & FBI have a lot of housekeeping to do otherwise scrap them all and start over with a unified Agency of American Intel !
14816254? ago
ThinThread?
14817465? ago
Watch the movie
A Good American
14818925? ago
Will do, thank you!
14819073? ago
welcome, I got angry after watching but It outlines indirectly how the "Love of Money" is killing US !
14809964? ago
Right in front of our eyes
14809923? ago
YUP. C_A is mostly rogue agents...supposedly there are a few white hats; I personally doubt it. Haspell, WTF could she possible do to turn these turncoats around? No guess on that one. NSA = Good guys for the most part. (Every agency has bad apples). Snowden was a plant...think of what Msfud did to Papodopolous...same scenario. For the whole; Yes...NSA is trying to weed out the corrupt C_A actors...it's probably a daunting task. But here's the good news; Q says: There are more Good than Bad. (so that is reassuring). WWG1WGA.
14809863? ago
Both need to disappear. Cancer on earth.
14809845? ago
The CIA didn't want to be spied on. NSA has ALL dirt: salaries, stock info, intellectual properties, patent info, criminal activity, etc.
14809758? ago
After reading Cathy O'Brien's book Trance-formation of America, it's abundantly clear that the CIA is corrupt. It should be dismantled.
14809629? ago
This is actually pretty interesting.
14809477? ago
LOL you said "tit".
14809362? ago
I now understand why GTA V's storyline was about the NSA vs CIA... They were dropping a red pill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPhcJU0S40U
14817103? ago
I have stared many people up and down in my life.
Brennan, former cia head, is not trustworthy enough to be town dog catcher. He’s shifty, uninspired, looks like a homeless lackey.
Clapper, wow! the lying in front of congress about spying on Americans. He was slinking in his seat, bad posture, nervously rubbin his bald-head.
These guys are bad actors, sellouts, punks, thourougly compromised.
14813194? ago
It was FBI vs CIA or FIB vs IAA in the game
14809449? ago
Because this shit is real. lol
14810028? ago
Most of the crazy shit in movies/games/TV are based on reality.
14810350? ago
I keep saying it but no one listens when I say Assassin's Creed is a form of Soft Disclosure
14818018? ago
How so, what kinds of details can you give that might be a disclosure?
14810936? ago
^^^^This... The reason I have become so enamored with this series, a 46 year old fella, is because of the truth and knowledge dropped in every fucking release! Indeed!
P.S. Enzio is overrated
14810800? ago
You're probably correct.
14809277? ago
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14809200? ago
It would make sense. Q has said Operators have died.
14809100? ago
I doubt that everybody in either organization is homogeneously white hat or black hat.......
People change their opinions all the time on inconsequential things...
That same analysis probably applies to the Democrats and Republicans too...
14809483? ago
In the game of Spy vs Spy, they never are. However the majority can be spoken for in many cases.
It's a matter of watching for those not in the majority with other interests in mind.
14813681? ago
Yep, good summary 👍
14809145? ago
Yes but Q is Military Intelligence and mentions several times the N.S.A. on our side. N.S.A. is Military Intelligence.